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Dearly Debated
Dearly Debated

Episode 22 · 7 months ago

I Changed My Mind

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

We're flip-floppin like we're John Kerry doing the worm on a beach, talking about shows and movies we changed our minds about! Greg kills Han Solo, Ashley bangs two coconuts together, Jason experiences the J. Jonah Jameson choir, and Nathanael makes band related innuendos!

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...together and makes the whole SegalChill Vecorse, but THERISAF skywalker. I watched, and I was like that- wasn'tvery good yeah. I wasn't like I hated that movie that I was like. That wasnot a very good movie and I probably wont go back to Rewatch it. Last jet Iwas very favorable towards initially and then later now it now it is. Iloathe it now yeah. I had a similar experience withthe rise of Skywalker, where I enjoyed it in the moment I got caught up in theemotional beats of it like there were several times where I audibly gasped inthe theater, and I like I, I even like, got a little choked up shit few tearsand then I went home and thought about it. I was like that's e that Wa I that was my lastJeda experience, but when I was sitting in Foriza me for Rizal Skywalker, themoment I knew I was like this was not a good movie was when they, when theyfake, killed, Chubaka spiler alert were b. That was like. Oh Damn, did theyjust really kill Chubaca, that's serious story moment. This mightactually be like a an impactful movie and then like thirty second slader, okay, and as soon as I saw shobockinginwas like okay. This movie has zero stakes. There is zero stakes in thismovie: Yeah Yeah, nothing matters like Wi. I was Kinindo surprised about that and,like I mean I don't know what the life span of wokies are, I feel like they're,probably longer than human life spans, but I don't know, I think yeah I mean like no. They ain't goingto ice two buck, especially not when they got a younger actor playingCubacka, who you know like you, guy already got this. This really tall dudeon Hook for a what ile like you, can have all the Chubaka you want yeah, I get the idea of like. Oh, you don'twant to get rid of your your marketable characters, but at the same time theyintroduce a new droid every single movie and shift the spotlight on tothem. About that, I, like the droids. Mypoint, is you can sacrifice one marketal character to introduce anothermarketable character like thecharacters Onsolwell I mean thing is as mediocresthe Forceo likein was they killed Han Salo. Well, I mean that has more to dowith like Harrison Ford agreeing to come back and be hon, so it was just ashocking thing in general. Just because, like notoriously, does not like to talkabout being on Solo and I think, like kind of the deal he worked out is likewell, if you want me to be Hon Solo, I get to be Indiana dunes again. EAH WOHWAIT! So he's the blame for that garbage movie. Okay, so so they wrotehim a big fat check and then he you know he got to go out yea. I feel likehe had like a really like a pretty honorable, spoilor, lerk death sequenceand it made like since within the story like I felt likethat was like a good way out for him, but like the fact that they got him tocome back at all was shocking to me in the first place, just because henotoriously doesn't not like talking about being Hansolo because he's Al so run M. Come back, is not a forcus forst,ghost yeah right that made no sense, but no thinkingthat movie made sense. No! No and and so simisimilarly tething, I enjoyed theriseof stywalker in the moment and then like. I went home and thought about itand I got really mad because it effectively erased a lot of the lastJedi, which is my favorite star wars movie. I know that is an unpopularopinion among this crowd, but I don't care like Youre cosme. Well, I'm like I'm sorry like if youlike, like effectively what you did. was you just shot yourself in the footbecause you didn't like do anything with the pre existing story? Yes, Iunderstand like if you don't like stuff that happened, the pre existing story,let's, let's take that and move it into a different place like it's stupid justto like. Oh we're just going to effectively mullify this. I this entiremovie with everything in this movie with Bando Fan boy, pandering, no, no,that's stupid! So so I'm actually as much as I hated the last Jedi. Iactually didn't like the fact that that they tried to youturn all of it becauseit meant we didn't go anywhere. I was like look youv gotta Exacty, you haveyou have what you have work with that. Yes, thank you. I agree. Weo weestShati was still terrible and althe. Almost all the decisions that Ryan madewere terrible, but no tat, choice, Tomi, but the choice to return them didn'tmake sense like he could have there's a lot. You could have done I'llfinishuthe trilogy here, because mine was was the fource Wak,...

...the baby. So for me the force awakenswas a pretty iconic. Even now that I am not a fan of the movie the ForceAwakens, I think it's pretty bad think it's really bad. It's. My first initial viewingexperience of the movie is one of my favorite vew experience as ever of amovie. It was a amazing moment. It's obviously this huge lawl, I mean starWasis, thought to be completely over and then Lucas sells it to Disney. I'ma huge star Wars Fan, and so I'm like going kind of crazy. My cousin lives inLa and we're looking up with the best place on the on earth to watch openingnight of Star Wars, Romen, and it says TLC Chinese theater in La in Hollywoodand so were Ike allright. We got to do it and so we're just sitting thererefreshing a page, the second the tickets come out and just as soon as they come out, thewhole site, crashes, Hes, cu, fofresh and keep professiong o but EIM. It'skind of the same thing that happened with the. When the PREQUELS came out.It was so hard to get tickets that opening am E. GTIE T of theicets havebn kN for the opening night showing, and we are literally just sitting thereseconds you know like, and so we get in there and we read three chickens withme. Him and a friend late me go. We dress up like Jedies, it's amazinganyway, so on top of it being an amazing experience, I she thought themovie introduced a lot of in characters. I overlooked quite a few things and wasobviously muse caught up a bit in the moment, but was very much just aleft.All three of US said the same thing in our long discussion. Afterwards, whatwe were like all right as potential to be really good, but s it's alldependent on like the way to this whole. You know series goes the next one'sreally bad and doesn't explain everything and that's Goin ta. Be thisone Jambe. Looking back, I think it was filljust a bad movie out right, butobviously I wasn't a fan of how series went after that and, let's just say Ididn't initially like the next two movies and somehow have liked them less. So the first one was the only one thatkind of started off good and nded bad for me. So I'll just go cap os tothetrilogy there Weso we all can tick one of the Star Wars than e ThouSayjason do you? Did you have a similar experience withany of these sequel, Tigy, Star Wars, films, kind of a similar experience? It's onthe force awakens of just kind of being lukewarm? Let's wait and see and then avery similar experience tonothaniuel on the last Jedi where I went in, I waslike I really enjoyed that and then I actually talked to you and Ryan and youwere pointing out all the stuff you liked tobout I was like yeah, that'spretty cool and then the more I thought about it. The more I was just like no at movie wasn't for me that Di see sit's, not we didn't turn thim tothe dark side. It wasn't our faults, our hands a clean, so so so so Jason Jason. What's what'sthe internal temperature of a ton? No idea, Luke warm did Jonan Jameson lected, I'm sorry Yosaid you were warm on a star wars. I can't believe you didn't make thatjoke. Why I eve heard that one that's wow well, so this this just is telling,because I you know my day job is I work in social media. That's my breadenbrother, so Isaiota mean that would hurt me physically, but sohere's the thing like, I think I think, a lot of people who ere complainingabout the last Jed. I got flat and Andrits a Skywalker two like people canplay you abaut the Secuel Chilles. You Got FLAC FROR itting like Oh you're,just fan, boyfen girl or what whatever right, it's like, either they're, notpantering enough for their pantering too much or this and that n, the otherlike you'll, never be satisfied. And I'm like that's that's bullshit,because as much as I hate the sequel trilogy, I Still Love Star Wars and Ilove the place. That's going and I'm excited to see them make new thingsright. I don't want the franchise to die. I think it's a big enough universethat there's plenty to do in there and I'm glad the sequel chillys over. Theycoand. Finally, like throw off the fetters of all this old stuff, whichmando dipped into a little bit in second season, but it seems like, hasthrown that off again for third season, where all the all the brossovercharacters, more or less, are getting their own series, which I'm happy tosee Whisarra Dosana, so ca, Tima series. I want to see that, but I also want to see Mando Gobimandoagain. So so you know being a fan is about enjoying you know enjoying thestuff you know and not you can. You can not like something in a series or auniverse or setting or whatever and still be a fan of the series and stillbe excited when new stuff comes out so...

...well, and I would I would say too, eventhough, like the four of us have differing opinions on various aspectsof the Secuel trilogy, I I mean I would definitely say that none of us likelike it's, not that we aren't thinking critically about any of this, like Ithink like, even though I don't agree with you three about the last Jedi, definitely wouldn't say that you wallwould think critically are not thinking critically about it. I think thatthere's different things driving our interpretation yeah and that'scompletely Valen as a literature person like one of thethings I love about literature and then like- and I think now, like literature-has evolved to include film as well like the way that you interpret a textlike there's, not necessarily a one hundred fercent wrong way to interpreta text, because you know everybody is bringingtheir own experiences and what's the right like beliefs and we'R O we're all operating within ourold own world view, and that is shaping how we interact with a piece of ofliterature or a text. Yo Kno and when I say text I mean a story: A film TV ShowBook Short Story of whatever Aand, I would even say like the story of avideo game like you could take it as far as that, because I thin video gramshave some of the most interesting and best writing available. Nowadays andnow we have to do an episode on Best Video Game Stories, yeah now and I'm Gi,Retro Gamer. So I'm Goinna, like I'm, going to do some deep cuts with likethese Atari records like about estroids and Senap, and things like that andYoall can handle. I A anything new I'll have some. I have some deep cut stuffabout CENIFE and asterods. I think you'll really enjoy. If you're notalready aware of him, did you know that Packman sorry, MissPackman was the first video game with cut scenes. I think I didn know that,and I forgot that information until you set it out loud, but I listened to alot of podcast on these subjects. So yeah, that's that's cool yeah, butanyway, like all of that to say like, even though we all have differingopinions on various degrees of Star Wars like it's not to say that I has to take toeven say that one of us is more right than the other, because I mean it's anopinion. You know I mean as m as often as I joke. Oh well, that opinion isincorrect because it's not mine, like you know, it's funny to me that we can all like.Oh, I had this experience where I enjoyed it in the moment and en I hatedit, the more I thought about it. I think that that's that's really. That'sreally fascinating to me that we all had that similar experience, but withindifferent context. That's pretty funny and if you want to get a a deeper diveonto our opinions at least Ashley Greg and my opinions on the last Jediepisode nine. We actually had a debate where we actually had a debate. Wetalked about this, so we don't need to be Atin. So just sa Jason came back andwe instantly just jumped back to star wars yeah. It is a topic sobelieve yo done this Imean, like I feel like. Maybe the lastcouple of episodes we have shut talked shockingly little about star. Well, Imean I didn't know how to link it to rum cumps. I tried. I love you, I know there yougo naild it well, yeas all other potential for ROM COMNISS was inepisode to, and all of that was horrific. Oh My! What? What do you meanI and is hot and coarse, and it getseverywhere? Eigt sand, it's course: N Reallyn, it's everywhere: Oh man, okay,we're gonna, move on SOM, Star Wars, yeah so d. So as I was thinking aboutthis topic, I think a lot of the ones hat that I was like I enjoyed intheaters. Then later I was like. I never need to go. Watch tha movie againa lot of action movies, so any transformers pass the first one becauseI think the first one still still pretty good ioejoyd the firstyeah. I think thefirst one was good. The second one I watched once and I was like hey thatwas fun and then later I was like. Did I lose brain sells? I think I did losebrain cells. I didn't think the third one was toobad, but I mean that may also be my love of Leonard Nemoy lending it aslight bit of credence. The the second movie, like I reviewed that one on myblog after I saw it in ther, because I've been blogging that long after Isaw it in the theater, and I was like this is a two and a half hour. LongBathroom Joke do not watch this movie terrible movie yeah, but I also think otherwises so like Isaw underworld. So the underworld...

...series is like underworld, underworldevolution. I think both of those movies are actually pretty decent, even ifthey got really weird with the Lords like where wills and Vampires and thisguyis half of both and so he's like immuntist. I don't know the Lord GotWeird, but they did like a prequel one was which was riseon t licens. That wasterrible yeah, but it's funny yeah. I heard that was t you metion thatbecause I figured noave seen those and that those are two movies that I reallylike those two movies as like, where Wolf Vampire type movies- and I waslike man- I don't know a whole lot of movies that do them in a really grittyway. That's not kind of a really hoki and Corny wa felt very much like modernday and dark and yeah warewolves ind the vampires fight like gangsters whenthey're, not werewones, vempires, like with guns and stuff yeah, and thenoccasionally they'll just go full on like the kind of revert into like theirweare, wolf or or vampire MoD it just duke it out. So it was really. But thenI actually would look av me make sure make sure I'm thinking of the right one,because there were like four of them yeah after the first two, they made afull bunch and they just got really played out in bad. But I went back andwatched the first one and was kind of underwhelmed. I was like man iad been areally long time, and I told I was telling somein like Oh, it's a greatvampire wearwolf movie and I just thought it was kind of okay, Thas,actually going to be one that I mentioned where I was like. Oh I don'thate it by any means. I didn't think it was terrible, but I thinkhe no, as, asyou remember, well, and also his feedback, an being like yeah thatwasn't that great and I was like you're right really wasn't that amazing, but Istill enjoyed it. You know I just I think I hyped it up too much. Mayit waskind of like life, a Pie, life appys, the same way for me, Life Oi, forwhatever reason when I first watched it my mind was blown and I was likeeverybody need to watch this movie and then like the second third timewatching because I watch it once and I watch it immediately again with afriend an was like yeah and then the next time I watched it was like a month.F later I was like wow like what was it that was. It was okay like it'terrible Utrayeah,so the first two underworld, so so my roommates in college. We watched themand I was like. Oh, I really enjoyed this and like yeah yeah. This is in twothousand and nine, the third one's coming out. So let's go watchin intheaterss like yeah sure, let's do it now, we'll say. One thing that I alwaysstuck out to me in underworld was the hybrid person when he transformedlooked so dumb, like the vampires ind worlds. Look pretty good he's like thiskind of scrawny ass, looking yeah aode Goy and I'm like Eah like who andhe and he was blue, andI was like who thought this was a good idea. This looks like absolute ass,like if you're going to make the he's more powerful than either one right. Hedoes not look like he's more powerful than either one like am Mo guys. Helooks herrable but anyways. So we went and saw the third one in theaters andwe actually saw it in thd, and I remember there was only a single pointin the entire movie, where I noticed I was watching a thred movie and that waslike someone gets thrown out a window and it like pans down to the alley, andI was like Huh some of those palates in the alley. Look like they're closer tome and, like I paid extra money for and after that, I've never gone to a thremovie. After that SOS I was like that was such a waste of money. There's aliterally one point where I noticed it was a th movie, so I e's gotten better.It has I'm sure I say I have never seen any of those underworld movies. Theyhave literally been on my washles since high school and I think, O first to Rison the Borit er decent yeah. I've got a buddy that really enjoys them. I didhear like kind of mixed reviews about the likengs one that you mentioned,Greg what Atto the first to it. It'sdefinitely like preference. If you like to Doa, I don't think apparently tharstwo more after that one yeah Iwthier Thos Likaand, just just to clarify, arethose based on like a video game or a book series or were straight up no idea.They certainly seem like they were based on or that or vice versa. Let's,let's see O, it seems like it's. An whall was an original originalscreenplay. Okay, okay, that's cool! Like I mean because those those kind ofwere pretty Fab, like I sal yeah, what yeah yeah, but they those were those were like those came about aboutthe time they started. That was like right at the the threshold of it'sethe era of the reboot and theadaptation and the you know all of that stuff. So That's interesting because these werelike early tosands. I believe Yeah Tot want to say like two thousand an oneand two tousand four Mabe Yeah, so so fun fact: I've had a NETFLIX DVDsubscription since two thousand and eight and I'm pretty sure mine. Thosemovies have been on Theair for that long, I'm still like. So. Do you notwant me to read this? This kind of spoiler replots on ruing dude? I don'tcare at this point. They mean they've, been on they've literally been on myLage List for almost twenty years at...

...this point, Cho Tha have em beenspoiled already beck. Ond Sale is you know it's revenge plot they're chasingsome human ney, Michael Cortin, forpemitation Ha Olong. The Way Lindiscovers not only a mutinist pot to destroyed the vampire elders, but alsoa shocking revelation about her father figure elder Bigdor, the Vampires andLichens are not supernatural treatures, but rather the product of a virus. Itis revealed in the film that the first vampire in licen was a survimberolplague. Ye had three sons: One got bitten by a bat tecame, the vampireline, one got bitten by a wolf. I got the where will flyand. So what youtelling Wbut this movie is telling me is that we could have had like waretoads and ampire salamanders if they'd got bitten by different animals, and Ireally think that's the direction that should have gone in is like you're,going to take all the mystiques lamander you're, going to take all theyou're going to take all the mistake out of vampires and, like sorry, ampirespiders spider people, you're gon, to take all you're going to take all themystique out of wherewoles of Vampires, with being like just some virus that it just happened.You know these things happen, life finds away, they call it the vimpuricgerm yeah. It's a virus. It's funny. I didn't really make that it was coverina vis, the original COMRA virus Ron say Jason. Have you seen any of thesemovies because I have not I've seen, I believe, the first two, but it's been awhile, and I've only seen them once I remember enjoying them a friend similarexperience to one of you guys a friend just was like you need to watch these.We sat thewn, we watched both two of them and honestly, I don't remember awhole ohout a whole lot about them, but I do remember enjoying Hi'm thinking,theywere, pretty cool allrigh yeah. I think that's tha. That's they werepretty cool, they're very kitchy, but they I mean the action was well done.It was yeah some cool compelings and also at least in the first one, I'mtrying to think of the second one. I believe a lot in the second one too.It's practical effects as far as like the warewoles are these big. Are thesebig animatronic costume puppet things so like it's? It kind of stands thetest of time. It's they're not trying to do it. Ton Cdi to where it ages poorly, you know itlooks very cool, there's like one specific scene that I always liked alot where, like the warewolves are in these like are in these like, likethey're, in like the sewer system and like whatever it s, a big city, and sothe May main ones coming back and two of them are just fighting in a bigcircle and everyy else is cheering on and as he like enters the room, theyall stop and like the two one, like turn, look at look at the main GuyLucian and they slowly like as the cameras coming towards them as thecameras kind of acting as Lution. They like turning from Wolf back to human,and you see it right in front of you Ha' just slowly like turned back, andit's really well done. I think it's one of the cool scenes that, by the end,once he gets to theire left just like breathing heavily and they're all likeyou know, sweaty and it'. Just like Oh, like it's a really cool transition, butyeah, I think, there's. So it's a good one say some interesting stuff from thewikipedia. The film was subject to copyright, ind fringment lawsuits,claiming the setting was too similar to the vampire the masterade and wherewell fhe apocalypse games. So thet gets sewne on by the Mambor of the masscratepeople. The lawsuit ended in a confidential setiment thog settlement.So there's that thirty one percent of rot tomatoes, but a bplus audiencescore on cinema score so and Roger Ebert said this is a move. Sorry. This is a movieso paltry in its characters and shallow in its story that the war seems toexist primarily to provide graphic visuals. Damn Tel like it is ewer an myjason. Let's hear one by any reasonable standard, this dark, vampire, epic, allmassive overacting, colone commercial design and sexy catsuit sucks, but atleast it gives a crap that was aber. That was Andre. Oh Oh,here ohayer all right! You know it's like well. At least they tried that is literally the review. Theytried and then ever just like your garbage Jason, throw one out there tonout forus. All right, I want Ta. I want to go with one that I id initiallydidn't like and ended up coming back to unloving and we lose alittle bit of NERV cred here, although I think I've given this away a tiny bitin previous episodes by not knowing a a quote or two the first time I tried towatch Lord of the Rings I couldn't get into it and it was aright when they came out. I had no idea about the world or anything I meay havejust been tired. The first time I tried to watch but Goming back, and I absolutely adoredthose movies now, because they're awesome, practical, practical effects areamazing. It's a great story, but first time I tried to go through it didn'tget me, couldn't get into it at all and then had the exact opposite experience.Well, not things act opposite almost the opposite experience with thehobbit movies. I went in man, I'm really really hoping to enjoy this, andthen I just I can't go. I can't bring yselfto keep going back and watching those...

...as much as I want to yeah want to lovethem so so and and declarify like there's a bit of an age range here. Iam the oldest, I'm thirty, five Jason. How old are you goingto be thirty theend of this month? Okay, so so you would have been approximatelylike ten or eleven Wen yeah when, when the fellowship of the ring came out, soI'm gonna give you as as the resint old person. I will give you a pass for beantenan eleven and not being ableto get into the fellowship of the ring, because that's a really long movie toexpet Tenor, eleven ol boy to sit through. You know now that I'm thinkingabout it part of the issue was the atmosphere as well, because I think wedecided to rent it on this big family trip where it was me, my family, bothof my mom's brothers and their whole families, and there were literallypeople that were asleep- that sleep through basically all movies within.Like the first few minutes- and you know I had younger cousins talking overit and all that kind of stuff, so it just it could not hold my attentionwith the gigantic Groum of people on the small rental television and ourvacation. Placeyeah yeah conditions were not ideal. They were notexperience with orthe rings, because the first time I was in a camping tripI mean et was a clamping we wewere in a tent like at a camp site, but we werestill close enugh to the city and we ere staying for three or four days ofmy family. I was Nying, maybe and they're like oh we're, going to go, seeLord of the Rings, and I had already seen the previews and I'm like that.movieis going to scare me like I have no in myrents, might have een. You knowat thatwas hat two thousand and one was when the filliwship of the ring cameout. I was sa I that came out. I think, like late, two thousand and one so Iwould have been a juior and hig. So just it was December because it wasright after Christmas that we went to GE yeah. So it was. I was, I justturned nine, and so I'm telling my parents I'm like. I don't want to seeitthink. I sound eight million years old everybody everybody was like. We needto go see this, so we end up going and my parents talkd about this moment, islike one of the worst parenting decisions of her life. Bat, I'm like tothat a good job anyways I get like. Of course I cul te Jesus scared out of meterrifying. That movie is like I don't know any part of the story of blow thering so like I'm just watching through it and then, like all of a sudden, likebillbos like when he screams and goes for the ring. That is terrifying. Iknow I dont wan jump to, but I mean to be fair. I'd, never I'd, never read anyof the stories, and you know until after I saw the films when so literallyID never wanted to leave anywhere. In that moment- and I was like I was just like- I likethis- is horrible ituslikewen Don, and so I watch this whole movie. It'sincredibly depressing. I mean I watch, I watch like Gandol Fall, I watch forme or get killed and not the hobbits get taken. I'm like what am I. This ishorrible, like I'm so sad and then I'm terrified like the next three or fourdays, but it's funny movies that have done that to me, because sin is anotherone that did that to methey've turned into some of my favorite movies of alltime, and I think it's also because I have such a strong emotional connectionto them, even though it was negative that really strong emotional connectionmakes it feel so real that when I go back and watch it, I can still connectto those feelings I had initially and I'm like man. This is so it's Dunne. Sowell, it's scared a little nine year old and he wanted to die like that'show good it was like good job movie. You did good being menacing because itwas attempting to be menacing. Did a good, Jobso yeah! That's my o! Rin Corwell, well great! If it makes you feel better like so. I didn't see fellowshipof the ring until and I don't ven know because my I am Iam the lone nerd in afamily of red necks, and so I don't know what prompted my mother to grab ause copy of the fellowship of the ring from Hatings, which was, I don't know if youall ever had a hasteenneer, you growing up Norounso, so hatings in now. It isnow defuncted, but it was a let the music movie book Media Storeand they buelt in like used a new. You know products and things like that, soyou could like bring stuff to trade in anyway. My mom bought like three use.DVDs in one visit to hastings and two of thosethree would become very influential. For me, one was the pelliwhshup of thering. The other was signs, yeah litrally, the to caed m yeah yeah,so, but if it makes you feel better greg like I was kind of curious to watch the Lordof the Rings. I didn't really have a lot of context for it other than Iremembered watching the Rankin Bass...

...hobbit. When I was a little kid that kidof is terrifying to look at inrete yely is like, like I mean those were rough back, she did the did he just hejust dod the he just did the fellowship of the ring and the and then the twotowers right or did he do or did he do the Hobbit as well? I don't remember, Idon't know who that is o okay, but anyway, I remember seeing ads for theHabbit on the Disney channel. When I was a little kid and the the dragonscared me. I was maybe like four at the time, but like the Dragon, scared me but t e, the narration they they putover. These ads was like very solemn and sombre and like this is a veryserious like fantasy film watch. If you are a grownup child letlike so so likethat was like all of my knowledge of tolken and the load of the rings in theHobbit at the time, and so I was like well, I don't know I knowhatlijah would because he was in all these movies. I watched as a little kidlike north, so I'll watch the Lo the rings also because it's a fantasy movieand I like fantasy stories so I'll watch it and I really enjoyed it butlike I started watching it on a night where I am notoriously a bad sleeper. I just I've gotten better about it in recentmemory, but like on the whole, like I will wake up at two or three in themorning and won't go back to sleep for two or three more hours. So I will Ibasically, I got in the habit where, like op well, it's tw thirty and I'mwide awake and not going to do anything. So I might as well go into the livingroom watch a movie, so I started watching the fellowship of the ring andthe those opening sequences like with the orks and stuff like they freaked meout a little bit. I was like sixteen watching te Begretso I mean, and this was this was before Ireally enjoyed horror films, so I mean take that with a grain of salt,because now I'll watch horror movies all day and go to right to bed so yeah,but anyway like if it makes you feel better like I was still like o. Thatwas a little creepy like its like high school kid, so yeahfellowship of the ring. That's that's interesting, one, an Jason but yeahlike I can definitely see how like conditions in the first watch may havecontributed to yeah. You know less Tan experience. What's one that you guyshave watched in like initially you were underwhelmed and then, as you watchedit more, I think that's probably m might be a harder one yeah. I feel Iguess the hearder category, because again what if you didn't like it, youtend not to go back to it. Yeah see that US easier, really is notnecessarily like hating it and then going to liking it ut', something thatyou were kind of indifferent about and like okay and then realize wow. Thatkind of, like think of, like your favorite movies, were they always yourfavorite movies or did some of them like it took a little while and thenyou're like oh wow. When did I e? I cannot. I cannot remember my top fivemovies. I cannot remember ever being indifferent, to which I talked aboutdoing the BOT princess bride. Remember the titans, dot, pilgrim or chester andSutopia all of them. I've always remembered loving from the from theword go. I've got one and, and maybe maybe a second pretty good one for thiscategory, and so one movie that I watched that I just I was like. I don'tunderstand why anyone likes this movie is Monty Python in the Holy Grailm, which I like now I love Monty Pyathon, but the first time I watched it mu. So my Buddy Stephanie One of my very bestfriends from high school. She an are still really close friends. She like I,was very familiar with mitipoth on the holy Gril. So when I was in high school, I was in marching band, and so I knewall the quotes because thissinin in the marching band, everybody love, multi,pop icon, and so everybody d quote my tpotatan all the time. So like I've gota lovely bunch of coconuts de imlediately. Here they are standing ina ro about Mapoa yeah. I knew the coconut song. I knew the whole thingabout King Arthur and his his man, patsy and they're writing and trethey're like because we would do during band camp every summer. Pleasedo not quote American pieat me because that's not what happens at bankcamp. Welike PoAs, terrible yeah. I still to this day, never seen it because of thatreason I was in marching band. This is not how it works, at least not in theMarchu band that I you know was in, but whatever Wai anyway sorry acthllyyou're telling me that all the guys don't get their penises stuck in theirwound instruments. I too I mean I was...

...ot a big campin. Your running, I mean Iwas sax player and I'maledy. So- and you didn't put your petes in it Ashley-is that what you're talking? That's, not how that works, butwhatever anyway didn't metaphorically, I don't ee know how how U thatInfunction, I metaphorically may have put my penis in the saxophone right. No,no, we're not gonna KNOKDONL. Stick them an apple pies either for thatmatter, Yei Spear! That movie was just like Hey. What can we stick? Ou pethisis a next like. Yes, I mean that was basically the premise of the wholemovie, as I understand it still again, not seeing it whatever. Moving on MontPython was the movie that got lots of quotes, not American Pie. Although Idid have a friend who would say one time at band camp, I got sunburned andthat was like the end of the story because we all did got someburngbecause we are all very pale people, but anyway, monty python like we woulddo like the seniors every year at band camp would do like a senior skit andhalf of the thing alike or like a senior show and half of the skits inthere ewere, like Monti Python. So I knew about, like you know, petseaclapping, the coconuts together for King Arthur as he galloped into town. I knew the whole thing about he gotbetter or and and like so I knew all of thelines, and so my freshman year of college, my BuddyStephanie was like wait. Wait, I'm sorry, you haven't seen monty python inthe holy girls like no. I haven't. I just know all of these lines from itbecause of Bank camp and she's, like Oh we're going to fix this, and so shecame over one day and we had like a movie day and we watched a whole bunchof movies. That day, an one of on was Mondy Poz on the holy grall and Iwatchd it as like. I really don't think this is that funny I just I just Idon't get it and she's like what what is wron with you, and so I'm like okay,whatever maybe this is just me just not getting it. That's fine and- and I justI left it there approximately a decade later, I'm in Grad School and I'm in mymodern side, my class and I'm writing my final paper on ready player one and how ready playerone is a science fiction story that uses a fantasy structure and one of thethings if you've read ready player one. You know that Monchipan on the holygrail plays a very prominent part in the finale of the book, not so much inthe movie. So I'm I'm breaking down Monti, Python and the Holy Grail forthis paper, and so I I'm like all right. Fine, it's been a while, since I'veseen this, I should probably revisit it. Even though I'm pretty familiar withthe dialogue, and so I watch it- and I don't know if it's just that it's lateat night and I'm watching this because I've got a, I know I'm working fulltime and I'm doing Grad School. You know I'm fitting in my work inwhere it can so it's pretty late at night and I'm watching this movie- andit's really funny like this is hilarious. I'd like I'm having a goodtime, I should watch this again, just to make sure I'm getting everything,and so I restarted the DVD and I started watching it again and I'mlaughing even harder. This time I rented this movie from the Library, soI've got it for three or four days, and I probably watched it ten times in thatin that timespan, in which I had it from thelibrary and it gets funnier and funnier and funnier and funnier every time Iwatch as like what was wrong with me that I did not enjoy this movie thefirst time I watched it. This is hysterical so for me Monty Python inthe Holy Grill. Is that movie? I'm sorry. It took me forty six rabbittrails to get to this conclusion that I did not like the first time and Ienjoyed it by the end. So now I love Monti Python in the Holy Grill and Iwill put it on if, if I need something fun to watch the background, if I needsomething light hearted, if I need something that is, you know just I need. I need adistraction and I know I will laugh in it. No matter how many times I've seenit my to Pihon in e Holy Grill. That's what that was. That was mine movie. Idid not enjoy the first time, and now I love it. You got two anfuls of coke andI said Yep Bang it I'm together. It is, I think, I've told my money, pythonstory on the PODCAST, but a friend was like it someher. Your friend was likeHey, let's watch this movie and I was like I don't want to watch this movie.I 's like, if you don't laugh through the black night scene, we won't watchthe movie and I managed to not do it D. I was like nop stop what you're doing,but the moviement we're watching the whole thing. That was Hilarious, I'mjust better than you, my self control. My Self Control isimpeccable, inalso like in that, in that maybe tenyear time span, I gained a greater appreciation for absurds humor yeah.Definitely it's definitely did not have as much when I was like high schoolearly college, and now I'm a like.

Please let me watch all the absurdmovies. Yes, its definitely like a little more of a quiet, taste or thing,but as I was saying, I am the master of self control. Ah Su Control, funny thing about about money. Python, like I grew up withcousins who are like obsessed with it, like a quote like myoldest cousin, was in theater and really impressive, like memory me andsinging, and he could literally like just quote the entire movie withaccents and everything, and so I grew up thinking it was really funny, butthen I just funny- I don't know if Afnyyou guys have ever gotten into lifeof Brian, which was their second one. I have not watched life of briant Ryan asin life of Brian and enjoys it yeah. Like I mean in some Christiancircles, it's gotten flack, because it's not really sac religious at alldoesn't doesn't have any blasphemy, but it tells the story of like the nextdoor, neighbor of Jesus who was born in the same day, its tams crime, and it'slike the wise man initially go to his house. Bbut then they realize is shesusi mean it has some amazing scenes that are just classic, but anywaysrecommend going to watch it back on track, though I was thinking aboutmovies that I just kind of watched and I didn't think much of, but then kindof came back and really liked hem and I think the majority of them are less like, like not your typical actionmovie like like, for instance, I don't know if youever seen before midnight or before sunset or after whane are the three,the three of them h y, the three of them ivh Ethan Hawk and the French girlthey're considered to be. You know some of the the greatest people call them.Some people call thim the greatest romantic movies ever, but it's it's even hawk in this girland it's like a super raw film, very few cuts in a whole movie. So it's verymuch like an like it's supposed to be. You know two hours of time that theyspend where he meets her on the train and they talk and then they, then theyget off the train and they go walking around in Paris or whatever, and theyjust kind of keep talking about life and then two hours later, like they'rekind of like okay yeah, want to spoil anything butthey're like okay. Well in in one year, I'm planning on coming back and I'llmeet you right here and then, like. I, don't want your number or anything andthat's kind of how they leave it, and then they make two more movies and boththe movies are timeline sufficient, which means that, like the second one Ithink was made ten years later or five years later, and it takes place withthe characters. Five years later and they're, like hey, haven't seen youthis, you know whatever and then the last one was made like fifteen years orten years after so S, a super large gap and so they're older andit's, like it'smodern day, even hop with me recently, and this girl and again they're allshot very. Similarly. These are obviously movies that when initiallywatch him was like okay, pollring, hawks and stuff like that walks a I'muninterested, but I've watched them earlier. I guess not earlier this year,so two thousand and nineteen, maybe early early, two thousand and twenty. Iwatched O o three of them and I was like blown away. I think those threemovies as far as what they're trying to do are like incredible, I think,rethey're, all three definitely worth a watch. They're super you get suckedinto the story big time. ethen off is incredible, like he deserves an academywork for all three of them, the girl, I think those are really ter. Only bigfilms, I mean the guys atress. If I can interject Greg, I believe the actos orethinking of is Julie, delp, Julie, delpy, okay, yeah, and these are thebefore midnight before soundset, whatever yes yeah, I am I'm looking ather imdd right now looks like she is Aboud to do a series that is in in postper aption called on the verge she's consistently worked since, like I mean she's got stuff in everyyear, since one thousand nine hundred and seventy eight pretty much and heshestarted acting very young, but maybe in Lesser Knowan things in the US yeah.She is excellent. I just know she's less of a household name than you yeah, but anyways. Those were definitelymovies for me that, like when I watchd him the second time- and I thinkobviously just with my profession and being able to appreciate certain partsof film now, as opposed to before I started doing this, I can just look atthat and be kind of blown away at the acting prowess to be able to hold avery emotional conversation. You know for twelve minute scene with no cuts.You know as they're walking down a street and as I'm assuming tons ofdoubles, I mean tons of extras are having to constantly rewalk their marksand constantly reshoot the scenes and...

...just the amount of effort that goesinto that and and how quickly you just get sucked in because you're like wow,like no time is being cut like I'm. Just I've just been listening to thisconversation for the last two hours and I'm like so engape and you're, likethat's pretty crazy. It's just a way that a movie can make you feel thatmost movies don't make. You feel, and I feel like it flies a little under theradar. But if you're ever going to watch like romantic movie like Hey,what's it to solid romance like that, is, in my opinion, brebest those threemovies, all very good andi think Eton hat tins to choose projects like that more recently in his career I mean Ithink, like when he was younger. He was doing I mean again I'm a little older than you guys,and I'm also lady. So I remember like getting like Tiger Bee and other teneedbopper magazines and having wat you say, Tiger beat. Oh yes, I I said Tiger Bahow Asm I gonna get all these hands literally, never heard of that my life,it's because you are a dude. I thought I could say is because Iwasn't born in the S. I would have also accepted that answer. Well, no I meanlike I was born in the mid S, and so I mean I was. I was a middle school girlin like the mid six popling tiger beat yes, go for it as far as I know it'sstill on publication, but my wife and all things cool. It looks like it'sstill still still going Ayea surprise. I mean to my knowledge: It's been goingsince, like the S so yeah, six founded in sixty five by two dudes yeah wow.Well, they sure know how to market them. Midale school girls anyway. I thinkabout some of the things I've seen ECON hawk in in in later years. I think, specifically about firstrerformed that came out in two thousand and nineteen, I believe,did I any of you got ro excusem wow that was longer ago than I thought. Twothousand and seventeen did either of you three gentlemen ever see firstperformed, never heard of it. Please go watch first, perform firstperform is a great film for watching. Is You saying first reformed? Yes, asin like that's the name of the Church that Eten Hawk is the past okay, GoshYo Gosha in this film I think first performed is really interesting becauseit deals with a lot of really good ethical questions that Christian spacein or have have faced in recent years likeregarding not just like environmental stuff, but you know how do you moveforward with these complicated issues and I feel like it really does a goodjob of dealing with these issues honestly, so I would definitelyrecommend that film, I was a really powerful film. I've onway saw I've onlyseen it one time, and I still I like. There are points in my day like almostweekly, where I think about first were born, and I think I think Etin Hawk isreally interesting in that like how he kind of he kind of went from these.Like teeny bopper films like well, I know, I wouldn't even say like deadpoets, Societyes, a teeny Bopper Fhom, but, like you know, he was a TeanHarttroll, and so he went from like being the tean heart throb to somethinglike Gadaca in one thousand, nine hundred and ninehty seven Datias such agood movie, yeah icaus, a excellent science fiction film and it well injust an excellent film like period because it as really solid. Likeethical question, I honestly thought that Gadtaco was like closer to myfears of bioethics, like what will e will happen in actuality because we'regetting actually close to that sort of technology where people are going to besorted based on their jeans? No, I totally agree. I think I think thequestions that Ganaca asked Ar just as relevant today as Tliye wre, onethousand nine hundred and ninety seven yeah. So films like that and likeplaying hamlet- and you know doing all of these- these big roles to roles likewhat Greg mentioned in these before films and and in first performed where he is like he's really evolved in his craftand interesting love. Enough looks like he's going to be in Moonnight the one of the Big Marvel Tam Series: Let'scome at that one should be really interesting, especially given how howinteresting one division is turned out. I'm really excited for Moodnight, I'mexcited for Yo because I mean being a big marble. person like I was not superfamiliar with the character. I Will Happily Watch Oscar ISO. Be Anything Idon't care, there's a get to be several diffint things playing that characteryeah I Prett, I'm pretty sure. I show this to Greg, but a guy did like a skipabout all the people who didn't get into avengers and game, and, and one ofthem is moon. Night I's like interviewing like moonnight andpunisher, and I like punisher. What do you bring the party guns ner? I got that and like Blay like Oh,but I's like Plat. There's. No Vampires in then game we HAV. Why do you thinktheyre were no vampire to them game? I O and me us like Bro IV, got all thepowers of the moon. What does that even...

...mean moonnight? Well, yeah. Here's a fun fact I learnedsomewhat recently. Did you know? Oscar Isaac was in a Christian scoband andWasit wasn't the WS? No, it was not the WS. I only that will make me slip so soif youus twitter and you are Christian and you're a little weirdlike me, I would recommend that you follow the Weird Christian twitter folks on twitter, because those arereally fun, but you get to learn fun facts like Oh did. You know. OscarIsaac was in a Christian Scoband, I'm going to Google this, because Ican't remember the name of the band he ohed or that they didn't lt e likeinitially and now they don't like. I feel like for me a lot of sequels cometo mind. Yeah. We Talk Yeah Wyeayes, like I think when I get into like really good. Youknow I g excited about a new fantasy movie or something you know or justlike, like drastic park comes out or so UK more like the pirates of theCaribbean Allrghn of these movies. That really like we even mentionedtransformers Whac, I thought started off strong and they just continue tomake sequels and like they just trap you in there because they're such solidideas I mean drassic park, was kind of the first mainstream. You know dinosaurexperience ever so. You're like you want to see dinosaurs is where you goand so you're so trapped in and so you're. Just like. Okay, let's watchthe next one. That's watch the next one and I've always just thought of thejurastic parts as like this collection of these three movies until I've goneback and watched him and been like the second one's, not that great and athird one is straight garbish. Third R garbage I mean like Seriousl, go back and watchit and you'll be like the pacing of this movie makes like none of the moviemakes any sense. There's that Weird Sene ues, like Allan Alen, he's Raptrif noodyis nobod knows whatthe scene is like. The main Guy Falls Asleep, and you know he's having thislike rousing dream and all of a sudden he as Ellen, and he turns it'. Justit's up. Alox O wrappe in the BAS rafter opens his bath an says: Oen Soit's, likeit's, so bizarre, it's sobizarre yeah, but I think I think a lot of movies have done that tired, O theCaribbean. I don't think o the same extent, because although it had thesame kind of trickle down effect, I thought the second one was kind of likeyou're getting a little weird and the third one was like: Okay, you're,definitely ready to end because you are Yourin really out there, but then YtheyPai, two more actual, wellthe same thing: It jrastic part. Imean you GT. Thewdresswe talked about this, but the new, the first DRASICworld, first durastic world. The premise of well dinosaurs are boring.I'm like! Are you what in what world? What what kind ofwould ridiculous fantasy world is this? Where people have gotten tired? Peopleare still going to regular zoos ar you gedting. It's such a bad premise. Yeah. I think that, like like, I said,I think I think ipir to Carbean has a similar feel as to where, like thefirst movie in my opinion, was really incredible and I can still go back andlove that movie, I ma of it, was amade off of the ride, the right, a yeahright right and that's impressive. It's essentially just an original screenplayand they capture everything. It's fun. It's a little scary, a lot of action,there's good drama. It's Hilarious! You introduce characters that are iconicnow forever, like Jack Sparrow like now hard, that is to introduce a characterthat is just instantly, and I mean everybody knows jacksparasw. Well, I would say that a lot of yeah sopirates of the Caraban was onemovie where Theomi Wash. I showed it to Naomind Abbey for the first time andthey was like yeah. I don't think I reallylike that movie and I was like,like Takin it back offended like it's a great move. How do you not like thatmovie yeah? It's a great film, like I love the first one I was kind of NEA on,like jethat yeah, absolutely two and three were met, but the first one, Ithink, is still good and still holds up. Oh yeah, the first one it, but thatgoes along with the theme of what I was saying wes when I first watched thesecond and third I thought theywere very enjoyable and fun, and then nowwhen I go back and watch hem, lesser and letser every time yeah thesesequels have to do that. A Lot I'm trying to think of there a Ye Wellso,I'm wondering if, because I talked about the major sequls Mi, be sureJason's on you did the thing about the matrix sequels right, I don't think ofthem fondly, but I do want to go back and rewatch them in preparation forMatrix. For so my opinion might change on those so m curious to see if I'lllook on those movies more favorably...

...upon subsequent viewings, I totallymissed that there was going to matrix for yeah. It's been a developint for awhile o yeah. I mean I'm just already preparing for that one to be to be athinker to be the pirates of the Caribbean Fooi'm, actually like supercurious as to how they're working in neo and trinity. Well, it's like thoseare both like. Those are the first two characters you hear they're going to bein t it like as right. As far as we know now, there are no characters inthe entire movie, except for two and those both of those characters are dead,so yeah. So I'm really curious as to how they're going to do it. T could beit's either going to be. There's there's not it's not going to be amedefor movie. It's either going to be really interesting and really undewatch,or it's going to be just utter, abominable, pure trash that needs to beburned with fire yeah. I don't think it can be a mediocre movie. The Matrixmovies for me are like. I know that they digress as far as like qualitieslike like in like critical acclaim like the first one being great, the secondone being like a little worse and then third, one kind of dropping off littlebit, they're all three still pretty likedecently high enough, but it's not like the other ones we mentioned, but I'm ahuge fan of all three of them, rightand most like obviously the first one. It'sI agree stands out the most, but I think they all three Goi just very wellaside from the CGI Aiting, not that great and the second one thir couplescenes the movies. I think all three are great but yeah. I think ive just nooptimism about the Fort Ene, I'm hat like wet it Le Yeah. I want to watch itbecause, I'm more than anything, I'm curious as to how they're working themback in well- and I will say I did not watchany of those movies well retraction. I saw the first one in maybe twentyfifteen, and that was that was the one. The only time I saw and then we rin andI watched them with a with a buddy, maybe in t o theanda eighteen, O twsndy nineteen. We watched all three like on a Sunday. We took like the whole afternoonevening and watch all three films and I really enjoyed all of them. I thoughtthey were all fun movies and then I think in wo thousand Ynineteen, for,like the twentith anniversary, I got to go see the original film in Dobi, which was really cool like if you allhave a sound design, is really good. Yeah, like the sound, is really good. Iwas actually still like really impressed with how well some of the CGIand and text off, actually still yeah, it's age surprisingly well like, whilestill being somewhat dated yeah, definitely holds up very very well. Onthe whole, I was very impressed with that. Evengetting to see it and like an adolbe transfer, which is you know, if you've never watched a film and Dobeone like if you go see a film in Adolbe theater prepare to just like feel yourseat buzz the whole time, because the the Dobi speakers, like the speakers,are within the seats and also all around you. So it's a really big soundexperience, but also like dobe transfers of films or films that arefilmed specifically for Adolbi. Digital screenings are really really highquality. So the fact that they were able to take a film that was filmed inthirty five Millo leader millmeter and and do a really solid high qualitytransferd to Dobi, and it still looks good, is saying something for thequality of the filmmaking that went into that first film. So I I personallyreally really enjoyed it, and that was one where I have enjoyed it more onsubsequent viewings and part of it is just understanding more about what'shappening, yeah, but also just really appreciating it aslike. I personally did not really have a taste for server punk for a very longtime, a ready player. One kind of you know, switch that around for me. So a lot of cyberpunk films that I hadkind of like me or passed over because I'm like I don't really like Cyrer punk-is too dark or whatever and like Reddy player. One really shifted that for me,because that's like my favorite science fiction book, so things like the Matrix and blade runner- and youknow things like that- have really shifted for me, a ghost in the shell asanother one. I didn't like it the first time and I and again now I really enjoyand appreciate them on a completely different level. So yeah honestly, I can think of more. So Ithink I my tastes, have kind of matured andthat I prefer I'm happy to sit down and watch movies that are dialogue driven.I was never really. A lot of my movies did have a lot of dialogue in it likePrincess Bride, like court jester that...

...are very dialogue, heavy, but also haveaction scenes, and things like that. So you know, as a young male is a teenagemale Beng influenced by other teenage men. You know they're like Woa, BroAction, movies, buguns, violence, stead, ofit right and I never you know likefully bought into it, but I would say I would I would lean more action,oriented and kind of avoid. You know Romcoms and things like that, notalthough not a hundred percent, but I think that that really changed for mewhen I went and saw good night an good luck, which is basically a purelydialogue, driven movie just being a I've, never been much for historicalmovies either watching that being like. That was an excellent movie. You knowjaw droppingly good movie t, I think you know in terms of movies that that Iwould enjoy now that I wouldn't have enjoyed. Probably you know fifteenyears ago, I think, when Harrymin Sally woe qualify as one ecept again moviewas one hundred percent talking early dialogue, driven, I think for me, butmostly it's been movies, that when I go back to revisit movies that I rememberfondly and I go back and rewatch them now and I'm like this movie is not good,and so I mentioned span princess because I was like I peen year sinceI've watched this one princess. Let me just you know, watch the the the firstthree wash the first one still fantastic movie bill holds up. Firstswone princess is a mash topiece. I don't say that super lightly. It reallyis an amazing movie. Second one I think I got halfway through and I was like. Ican't watch this anymore yeah, just like it was like the voice. Acting was justso bad. Everyone sounded like they were bored out of their minds. I didn'tunderstand what happening like. I remember enjoying this movie a lot.This is bad. This is almost unlotchibly bad, so it is interesting to go andrewatch movies that you enjoyed as in when you're young and impressionableand seeing what holds up and what really doesn't and and alsoacknowledging like you know- I would have mentioned this. I I should havementioned this during the garbage, but like back before, like tangled Disneywas this was this is like the late S. Isneywas pumping out straight to DVD garbage sequels o younger kids. Might noremember this, so you, like you, O. No, I UEMEBER, I said younger kids.Actually I bro, I still remember Ato Ark,bueqals, butsyeah yeah, exactly sit terail two and three move on to and soyeah Disney had. This have this habit of just pumping out straight to DVDgarbage, and then I think who came in are th y. They ch e someone came in, Ithink the guy from sea, the head of Pixar when Disney Bot picks are part ofthe deal, was that the head guy at pickor got a top spot at Disney and hewas like all right: we're not doing tratedvd garbage anymore, a s. It wasmaking dissme a lot. It was. It was a ro from a purely fiscal standpoint. Itwas the wrong decision to make because they were making a killing with thatgarbage. It was Reycy to make and it got them so much money, but you knowevery now and then Disney will make a creatively forward decision every nowand then, but one of the ones that I, on the only one that's like even decent,is lionking to yeah. I don't think it's a great brain, pretty good yeah pretty,but it has you know it's got a first of all the n when he gets cast out likethis aption, this Gr, so good, so good. It has in Upendes, which me and mysiblings, determined was actually a filthy Disney trick right, as is enit's, this love song, but it's down in your panties ha ha ha ha, and this is not me thatcame up with this theory. This is my older sister who came up with thistheory so and well I'll, say because I I might befairly close in age to your older sister. I've only seen laking to once-and I was in like eighth grade and it complete that that was not a thing thatcrossed my mind aside. If you are very curious aboutthe Scotband that Oscar Isaac was oned, doa Dogo Google search for he was in a couple of different ones, one beingblinking underdogs, the other thegroms Anyway Yeah Lyn king to I that totallywent over my head yeah. I don't think it was intended that way. I think thatwas just my older sister, making a dirty joke and, to be honest, like I will get allthe dity jokes nowadays, but I'm probably not the person. That's goingto Ma Hem. So yeah, I will say space jam is not a greatmovie. I still ill watch it and I and look at it very fondly, but MichaelJordan's acting is staying Goina allright, but okay. So it's reallyfunny that so I'm big in Mangan anime, right right and there's a specificgenre called Esachai, which is basically you get transperred toanother world right and it's blown up over the last three four years it'sbecome huge, become one of the biggest Soens, where thit's, like their diamond,doesn't now. Typically, it's framed o like oh I'm in a like. You know like anRPG style world where I have Magican...

...and this and that and the other, butsomeone was like my top four ESEC is, and it's like afour panel thing and it s. You know this anime an the cename this Ma andthen the fourth panel is Michael Jordan. Space Jam, like you know what you totally right. I will say last year, at the beginningof the pandemic, I I wrote an article for fangirlish about like the top tincomfort movies on Netflix and space. Jan was one that revisited and I didnot really enjoy it nearly as much as I did with edh yeah exactly it doesn'treally huld up that. Well, it's kind of one of those ones you like it's mostlyTostalgia is why I will watch this movie Bill Murray is fantastic and hispart is still great. How did you get here? Oh yeah, I knowone of the producers to Geve me a right. Aren't they making a sequel tof thatit's been rumored for a long time that they make a sequel of like Lebron,James or someone like that, so so, there's already trailer out for it. Isthere yep it's not really a trailer, but it's like HBO Max. Had this hadthis special come out, it was like. May these are the movies that are coming upand it showed a quick clip of God Zila versus King Kong. They showed a quickclip of the new of the new motal combat movie or series, and thenti showed a clip of the new space ban and it's Lebron James, and so for me, Imean I whenspace Sam first came out was me getting into sports, and so I thought, oh, my Gosh, my brainjust heard you saying when I got into space gyme was me getting a divorce. Little little eight year old, Greglittle seven year old att year, Old Dreg was like I'm sorry, I'm sorryPaidin, like heres its over you get the same box. I get this halfof the SAM box. There's a Greag story. We have notheard apparently waa get that divorce. Lord is a wild state, man that aloc acrazy thing now ther, as I was just getting into basketballspecifically, and so the fact that they were NBA players was very intriguing tome, but also all around mean the music is hypein. That movie. The comedy isgreat between Youa the children comedy, but you also have the billmer adultcomedy and it's basketball which sucks me in, and so I still have a huge sofspot for it. Obviously yeah, I'm sure, Michael Jordan's acting is, islikewuster, haven't seen it in a while. You know what, though, is one that Itotally should have said last week that I think might still play some kind ofrole this week, just because I like this movie every time I watch it andit's a bad movie, everybody hates thimovie, the first Marble Hulk movie, the one that was done, like a comicbook, is one pro tip. I love that on. I can tro it's like. Iknow it's. I know it's objectively bad, if it's not objectively bad. Who areyou talking to these people Ar Prong the fact the cut scenes that they make?I meanthey are like it's literally like. Why Greg that's why it's the best thereisliterally a part, were lag and explosion and they do a freeze frame ofthe guy in the explosion they cut him out and if they like, drag him in so coic Bo, actually that actually,that would have been a legitimate argument until spider verse came out. That's and I love into the spider versso much, and I will do because that has that same comic wot thing well, alsobeing a good movie and it'sand I'll be fair. It's been awhile, since I've watched Angli's hulk, but I will tell you that I do believeinto the spider versus the best superhero movie ever made as somebodywho adored you're wrong. It's number two, the first one is the sixty six batmay movie with Adamist. I mean that's a great sel anbomthat's. If Spider verson had that line, itwould be number one, but that may got it first. Always remember: SharcerPlunt, you guys, I'm sorry great! It's a better story. The visuals arebetter, it's CGI, the CD a still holds up, which is U prising, because theyanimate the entire character and his like his reaction to the environment isreally impressive. Looking as far as just like the way that they did, the CGlike like the fullets bouncing off them. It all looks infinitely better than thenext movie they made with Ed Norton with Ed Norton. Oh, my gosh could notagree. I can't believe there is a thing that greg and I really like when thatpercent agree on like this is like the...

...moment of shock, I'm in Yeah Y, noTheed Norton one I mean sure. I mean it's fun because it's a part of theMarble Universe but, in my opinion, it's not as compelling thee, t e theprotagonistism, the antagonist, sorry antagonist, a bad guy, the bad guyisn't as compelling, and it's just really kind of in my opinion's o messthe animation of the hole because is really poorly done, and that first onewas good like the story was compelling it suck. You in he's always got Ramawith his father. They tie all the characters in well. The fight scenesare super, exciting the character developments good. The only problem I ied to shoot it like out of a potatofor was just like was this like that: theThe forbidden era, where the dark era, where we're transitioning from film todigital, and so there's like that middle ground, where everything justlooks like ass for three years so weird like even going back, I justsit there and roll my eyes. I'd like this is a solid movie. Why did YOURRUIN? It's like wow? It's like I still. I love that on. I jushonot a shame, goback and watch that we got TA watch it together. Now, Brolike like Y, I toto my knowledge to this day. I thought I was the onlyperson on the planet that I thought an Rickantak was far superior toincredible Hook, which to be to be honest, I have tried to watch thatmovie, like Probably Fifteen Times, and I have never made it through itthrere's, something like he fall asleep in the middle every single time,because abomination is not compelling to me in any manner and Y. His father's role in that first movieis one of the better villains. I think a lot of the IMCYOU. If you go back andwatch it you'll be surprised if, like how, I think, how much deat he has s,has a character and kind of like how the story develops him and and he'salso menacing, he's like extremely powerful, and so it's a very fun movie.My Ig, my big thing is like I don't understand how you can beat Sam Eliotas general. Ross like, like I'm sorry, William Herd, like I mean William,hurts a great actor, but he a' Sim Eliot Wat as Jen Ros. The only thingabout that is the only thing about that is I love Sa Melio, so I don't like himbeing the bad guy. No I mean like. So I think what I havelearned more than anything about watching movies with my mother is thatmy mother really is attracted to men with excellent mustaches. So my motherloves Tom Sellick and she loves Sam Eliott, Ma Mother, Lov indry. My motherloves Alan Jackson, country singer. She also loves him. He also has anexcellent Lustash, but like like my mom, I was like. Oh, Iwant to watch hulk and she's like Oh Saf. Eliot is in that, and so I think Igot my mom to watch it with me one time who gives no flying parts about anymarvel or comic book thing ever, but she wanted to watch echas and he it wasin it. So but yeah Sam Elli as General Ross was perfect and I really loveJennifer connonly is Betty Ross as well wea. I Reo yeah. Like I mean I love LivTyler, but I'm I thought Jennifer Connolly, wit morecompelling yeah. So I don't know I just I'm not a big fain of the Ed Nortonwhole movie. I've never been able to make it through that movie withoutgoing to sleep pea. Following on exactly on thatthread movie that I enjoyed. While I watched it and then you know later waslike uh, not that I not unlike last Jedi,were where I grew to hate it, a movie where I it Jus it just f kind of fadedinto nonexistence. In my brain man of Steel, oh so I've only seen thatone time a I really enjoyed it the one time I write right, but but I think mybar, I was also expecting not to enjoy Ryan. I went to go watch it with ourfriend, Michael, like two days before his wedding,because his fiance had already left town to go. Gin Go to Te, gon dowidding stuff, and so Michael's, like Hey, I'm a bachelor for a couple morenights. Do youall want to go see a man of steal with me. We're like yeah man,let's go, and so I wanted to go because I want to hang out with my body, andyou know I'm happy to go. Watch any comic, Wot morty. I don't care what itis, but my expectation for very, very low formain of steel, because I hatedSuperman returns to Rememer rturns is the lamest movie to Everlane Yeah. Imean sorry that was, I said it backwards. I wasn't talking about theZack snies man, a steal. I was talk on Super Mamebor turns with he friendaroundse man return so much yeah. It does because I remember watching it andbeing like. Oh, that was fine and then you know Si going back yeah yeah at thetime I was like. I have ated it. I've, never LIV WATCH ITYEA at Theti, teriblGan. At the time I was just like Oh...

...movie, Fun Yeah, but then then you knowthet come back wit like did anything actually happen in that movie? No, no!It was two hours o nothing and so supermareturns is such a weirdmovie to me because I don't think anyone was acting poorly. I think theplot was so bad. No, like Brandan Ralph, I thought was fine as Superman. Heavenspacy, I thought, was fine as lecx Luther Los Lane. No idea who theactress is, I thought did find you know it. What selanes Om a Guffin Rtli mean it's Superman, though. So it's like yeahyeah, a Sa Jas Jason. You yourt, Guyim, Onthis, ttell us what you think about e.The Pot is just like so boring. You', like Oh boy, yeah, superran, returns. Realy wasagain really boring to me. The I remember you know cryptonniht island. Ithink yeah, something why his whole thing was like. I'M gonna get realestate money like what Superman has a super powered kid thathe didn't know about. I forgot about that part. I'M NOT IEI. Just remember him like pushing apiano into a bad guy R, yeap yeah, the Bubanit's funny, because the openingscene is really cool. It's like two guys robbing a place, then Super Mad,like flies down an theyre shooting him, and it shows like a slow of the bullet.Just like colliding with his eye and then drawing to the floor is like areally cool opening scene and that's the most exciting part of the entiremovie yeah. I mean I had kind. You know at the time I was following comic ookmovies, a lot closer th than I do now. I heard some speculation like well alot of folks say they hired Brandon Ralph because he looks so much likeChristopher Reev and after and Leke having seen Brandan, Ralth and otherthings. I appreciate him as an actor, but if I only looked at Supermanreturns, I would believe it because supermam returns was so awful.Kate Bosworth was most plan and Brandan Ralp did a pretty good job, ithsuperman. They brought him back on one of the CW crossovers yeah and itwas fun and I felt nostalgic and I enjoyed it and I'm not sure why,because I did not enjoy supermanterturns again. I really thinkit was the case of that was one of the most boring movies.F. That's ever been name and O yeah. I like nothing, happens, TESA! Okay. Thisis like the most shocking episode dearly debated ever because we're alllike agreeing on stuff bro Geam on comic book, Sifi, stuff, yeah yeah. This is veryunsmore Likli I mean I'll, say I did not like man of steel, I'm not a hugefan of Zack sniner in general. I think watchman was good. We talked about theending, I think watchmanvie was good. I enjoyed three hundred, it was goofy,but I enjoyed it, but I don't really don't like most of what he's done. Yeah.I watched man of steel, and I was like that was okay, that wasn't man yeahexactly exactly hype. The hype around that was really high for me, because that was already in like I was I a filmproducer Yr that time, and so I was really into this- is going to soundweird, I'm really into movie. Trailers like, I think that well done movie.Trailers are, should be appreciated and have a good role to play in a movie andhow you remember it and that had a pretty amazing initial teaser trailer.It actually had at actually had a a song from the blow of the rings and playing in the background. I noticedthat yeah, it's Russell pros speech to Kell beforeHEU, send them off and it's these short little clips of him pretty much justliving his human life on earth and it's Anit's Henry cavill. Who for me was abig deal, because I I follomen. I liked him in Cato Monty Cristo and he playedfor Anon. Who is a sorry. He played Edmon no ands Mo. He Played Allan. Heplayed e albersjesus he's just a little kid at the time, butI recognized him when he played in the movie immortals, which is kind of likea three hundred ask type movie, that that was probably a good, an shomention where it's like initially thought it was so badassing cool andthen I kind of looked at like the reviews later and like on every singlesite. It's like a twenty five and I'm like it is that realy really that badand to tell you the truth, I haven't watched it since I've seen all thosereviews I was about to you and I was like. Oh it's so cool, and I saw thatand I was like- maybe it's not very cool and then I just haven't gone backand watched it. I bet you it's terrible, but anyway he's the main character inthat and he's kind of a stud, and I'm like Oh man, this kid grew up, and sonow I'm seeing in a superman. So I was real punped for man, O steel.

You have hons en were doing the musicagain or like again, because I say you did it for Batman, but so I was justreally hyped and it just underperformed. It was very vanilla for me. I didn't. Idon't really like the lowest lane character, who's that Ho's the girlthat plays her amy Adams Ikay. I us not a huge fan of like t characters beingplayed by really mainstream people like Amy Adams, in my opinion, is just everysingle girl and every move like like she plays in so many things like cees,an everything and it's like you, wouldnt have like Bruce Willis go andbe so randobe likewhat's, that's Ru. It's like Bruce Wils is more famousthan superman like you, wouldn't have him there and for me it's like AmyAdams is a more household name than lowis lint. So, like I'm like, Oh,let's, Amy Adams Jese happens to be playing this role. It'so, like I justthought, thit was a badcasting choice. I don't recognize her at all. have any of you guys seen arrival yeahshe's, the maker he's Beleving Ri arival made me ugly cry. Arrival is oneof the best science siction films to come out in the past decade, and Idon't think nearly enough people have seen it yeah yeah, Oh okay, so I have seenJulian Julia where she plays Julia. That's Greatan, yes, yeah! That's agreat film as well she's! Also in her have you either have any of you allseen her. That's the Spike Jones movie, her ythat Ewereyo Fallin love with this computer.Yes, Yeas Bas, yeah, yeah yeah, so his he falls. Wakin Phoenix falls in lovewith with his AI, who is played by scarlet Joe Hanson again just like.When we were talking about meet Joe Black, can you blame them reasonable, adperiod, Jo, come onpeople? I do love scarchos voice as a lady who is also like kind of analtum like like if I were going to be in Ai Life Scarjo, it was kind of whenI would aspire to so that's fair, but I, like Amy Adams,I've only seen like a handful of her movies, but I've enjoyed all of them.She was also an American hustle, but Sheh she's excellent. My point being is:is that, like I wouldn't necessarily pick for like pickers a casting tobecause ik think of think of, like all of your big I don't know like, I don'tknow how to say, like I Ganis comic book actors like e people playing inthose roles. I just would find it weird to put household names in those roleslike they're, usually taken up by people that you don't know that welland they kind of become those people. You know like, like, like iconically,that that actor becomes that character because like if the actor is morepopular than the character, it's just awkward like. It would be weird for meto see really mainstream actors in a star wars like imagine. If imagine if, if Bruce, Willis orNicholas Page wasn't jetta like it would just be strange like I just can't,I'm like this is just Nicholas Cage and he is in a star wars movie. I ges he'sGoingno have another name pleasecan you imagine, Tha, Sao Jackson, igeti willtrealygotl Jacsa Yeah? No! No! No! I Will Watch Mace Window. Do all thethings op yeah. He worked out Sam Jacksonis, one of those reallyhubiquitous characters that I feel somehow works it every everywhere. Hegoes but yeah. It's also because for actors that have been a lot of moviesthere are them all here and then there as Samiel l Jackson, he was like doublethe next closest actor. As far as the number movies you tacted, in which Iactually wet true, he Jackson has, I mean, like I know, Nathaniel. I knowyou were a big Fan. Ghost writer on PBS back in the day was good, go fe Bro. Hewas Joma's Dad. Oh my gosh, it's been here. I got to dig that stuff up. Iliterally just I rememberd wanting to watch it as a kid and I because mysister and I got like a couple of different PBS maagazines growing up.She got the one that was for like preschool kids and I got the Oneberthat was for like elementary school, and I remember reading like the Ghostwriter comics and stories they would have in the magazine. Ias Like Oh, thisis so cool, but I could never catch it on TV. I don't know like what happened,but I got the DVDs fror Netflix, because I am one of the five people onEarth that still gets DVDs for Netflix, and so I watch the first disk on Sundayand jump and jamalls dead is played by Samuel l, Jackson and like the guestlist they have in that show, is insane for ghostwriter because, like you gotlike all these, like ny, Sitcom actors that are in like random guest starroles that are weird and then you have sanuellJackson is like the man characters dad which is completely insane to me. But,like he's he'sn't enough to wher, I feellike he could do. He could do what I'm saying, but I guess I guess Amy Adamswas just like, in my opinion, didn't...

...work. I guess but yeah the Andi think alot of people were grumpy about her being a redhead and and and like, andthat makes this do get mad about that yk GE, I'm like why something differentto be grumpy about like that, has absolutely nothing to do with like aUrrail awill get hung up on the dumbest stuff. Well, yeah! Well, you know. Inyou know, people were grumpy in STARTRERC discovery, because in seasondo ethen pack had a beard, I'm like yeah. I thought het. Look Great. I'm on board really excited about itbecause, like if you look at pictures of Ryan who's, my husband as like alittle kid. He looks like a little baby spok and I'm like Oh honeybutto, likeif you. If your Mamma had put pwentof years on you, you could have been spockand he's like shut up. But then, like a couple years ago for Halloween, we gothim to dress wiph a spock and, and he didn't have to shave his beerd, becausehe's in pack was spok. You know with the beard on discovery, so anyway yeah.I think I think man is still underperformed for me, but I guessthat's kind of like a last thought here, just to kind of go off what I saidabout trailers. What Mi, probably my favorite movie trailer ever, is for thesocial network and that's a movie that when I initially watched I was like.Okay, like the trailer was amazing and the movie was pretty good, but now it'slike it's amongst my. I would put it my top five favorite movies, I think ever. I could turn that movie on any time andgo back and watch. I think it's the piction of like your typical collegecampus and, like I don't know, just like just big characters and howinterested you are in them and how much thethe drama has done really well. Themusic has done good. I mean the music is extremely basic, there's a lot ofcontroversy because they want an academy award that year. I believe, and he was pinned up against guys likehonzimmer and again, if you go and listen to the main theme of the SocialNetwork, it's like two cords. It like dude, doing doe Dodo, and it justrepeats that the whole time and like that, but it's very simple and welldone. I just think overall, the movieis incredible the acting is good. Thetrailer builds the right amount of Hihe it like tells a good enough story toget you really secked into where it's like. I could just go and watch thetrailer a bunch of times. I think it's that good, and I love that movie andit's just that's definitely been one of those that started out as kind of justlike. Okay, the trailer made me go and watch it, and then it was kind of justall right and now I'm, like you know, I'm Aa huge fan of social ork. Yeah Imean SUC is isn't, is just an interesting film because of how prominent a role social media plays inour day today lives, yeah and pust that that film has such a great cast withlike we'Rena Mara and Andrew Garfield Yeah, and that's that's, that's a realI've only seen it once even just in Timberleg, like plays a very annoyingcharacter. That's yeah! That's right! He's the guy that founded napster yeah,yeah, he'Siamerichar Parker, something Sean Parkersean, Parker, Yep Yeai say Icould have told you his name is a ask me yeah, but yeah. Well, so again I amold enough to have experienc. Well, no, the music. Okay. Why wire anyone? No! Isee I never used any of those services. I remember my friends using like lime,wire and napster, and and things like that, but okay, so the music for thatfilm is by trimp Bresner and Attekis Ross. Oh, my God, I I'm sorry Yoall haven'twatched Washman yet have you I've, not the show? No, the thosand Y Nin, okay,so trip resner and atticas Ross Div, the music for that they also did themusic for soul by Picar. That Jo came out thispast year, which souls amazing it's great yeah. It's real good! You see that hate soul was getting. Iwas like. Y'All did not watch the same ting. Sorry, no! Those people are wrongyea and then they also did the music foranother film. That's kind of a came out about the same time as soul and I'mblank now, which ot is anyway like theyre. I need to now that I know thatTuent resnert and atecas Ross have have done that like I need to go back andlisten to that score again, but just because the the musical choices theymake are absolutely brilliant, like they're, both geniuses. The way theyuse music in watchman is. It is, it is thematic and poignant without beinglike abtuse, or really like, like the fact that I, like I didn't notice whatthey did in social network is surprising to me, because I normallynoticed stuff like that. Yeah there's actually also like King Es. We were talking about gamestoories, which also I mike. I would want to do that like yesterday, justbecause I just finished the last of US two and like that game will, like I'mexhausted, like I'm yeah,...

I've never played any of those games,but, like the main thing I hear about them is like this is a wonderful story,but I am emotionally spent for like the next three months. Yeah like there'sjust you could talk to her. I mean I could just talk about the last ofwasOne and two for hours and ours mat like. I just need to decompress on that, andit's been like two weeks since I finished it, I'm still anyways the maingirl and that elly his voice, the voice actess that does that does her playsuper small roles and a bunch of random mofies, and she plays like a randomcollege girl that, like sleep to a Shan Parker, and so now what I watch and I'm alwayslike Lat's Elylike, I can tell by your voice but- and she like, she played therandom waitress at the very end of the first avengers that was like CaptainAmerica saved my life, a bunch of big MOIES and her voice issuper distinct. It's really good. She does have a Biggor Rih. You know Imight have a hang on. I actually think I actually think I have a Cluofer onthe outboard. ITISNO btshe has a larger role in this weirdand this kind of bizarre movie that I watched a while back with some filmfriends of mine. It was about it's just about social media and howther were about the Internet essentially, and it tells like three orfour different stories simultaneously and they all kind of link up and one isabout a a guy who's like a like a Webcam sexguy, and then one is about a boy who kind of gets fully Siberabulli atschool and the other one is about a guy with a gambling broblem online. It's areally interesting movie. Actually, she plays like a main reporter. That's liketrying to to like get a story from the kid th from like the young boy, W guywho does like the web camp sex step, and so it's like her talking to him.It's kind of a it's a look like Uninto, the radar movie. It's worth watch. If Ican remember the name, I give it up, but Hatwe Creacjohnson. Yes, so if youlook at Ash Johnson movies, you probably find hi' trying to think ofelse acshe's gretching on recess. That's what I was bout say yeah. I know I watched a lot ofChritical role, which is one of the big things that she's done: Yeah She's donea lot of voice acting to shenarred the same age, yeah she's, an she doesnt,anyting job n, the last of US last of us just period. You guys needto. I don't know I would say, play it, but also like t want you to break yourhard. Like it's a now. I've heard it's our really.Those are really wonderful games with like way beyond the bar of storytelling that you wouldexpect for a video game firs that Baris really low, though and unfairly low. Insome cases, yeah yeah I've heard I've heard, like I mean it's as its asemotionally coignant and powerful as any film ortelevision show Asomebod. That dos filmn is very critical. I would put thefirst last of us up there with some of the greatest storytelling in cinema oranything, and I mean that like like, I would Ke, I think, I'm on a high of itright now, somethin son, that just to be safe, but it's right up there andthe second one does a really good job telling stories.I think it told the Roms Tor, but I can't Patiqueit becausetdues sucha good job, a d, it's mainly just my personal, like I didn't like the regon,that's Noy Wenat all, and I think there are a lot of valid reasons why thatwasn't a good direction, but it was done. I such a good way still that itwas just it just sucked me in you know such a good job so again I'll lead thatfor a video game episode, Somebody Change Topic wit, I be, we shouldprobably wrap up it, so inightsay Jason. I feel, like we've, heard a lot fromthree of us, a little less fom you to do have any other movies that you lovedthe first time or and hated the second or vice versa, movies. I'm coming upblank on, I could think of a couple TV shows, but I want to get into thattoniht that maybe maybe another tin screw. We didn'tmention any TV shows TV shows that had to grow on us. There was definitelyagain. We talked about TV shows that kind of went down the O N, the abyss of failure, D andbarbage, but it would be it might be interesting to look at shows where itwas like the first time you watch it it. You know strugged aget through thefirst season, but now you're omitted in a fan so yeah. I will say just just very very brieflyone movie that I really enjoyed the first time I watched it and did notenjoy in ladder. viewings is my best...

...friend's wedding. HMM part of it, I think, is the first time I watched my bestfriend's wedding. I was in high school and high school, actually very, veryinnocent. A lot of things in my best friend's wedding, totally went over myhead last year. During the pandemic. We didseveral virtual girl movie nights and, like maybe the second one we did. Weended up watching my best friend's wedding and I'm watching this and I'm like. Oh, I missed that at age. Sixteen andI'm now thirty, four and watching this movie and realizing. Oh, I, oh Oh okay got it. Ireally don't like this movie soand. Some of that, I think, mightalso play into the fact that Julia Roberts is a very is very charming onscreen. I don't. I don't want to disparage her name unfairly, but I fromwhat I have read: She's, not a super nice person in real life. So maybethat's some of it thereare. Also some really funny lines in that in thatmovie, like she's, opposite Cameron, Diaz, likeCameron Diaz, is the feyance of her best friend and she's, trying to bustup their wedding. Also, I just really think that's a bad premise for a movielike I'm sorry, you, like she's, trying to do with this really like. Iunderstand that she thinks hat she's in love with her her best guy friend but she's, trying to bust up their wedding.That's a Dick Move, sorry k and the metaphorical penis in the saxophone k there's no way. Youve come off goodin that like no stop anyway, like cameron like Julia Roberts, actualprofession in the film is that she is a food critic and Cameron Diaz like shehas his confrotation with Camerondias and like a bathroom at a baseballstadium, thut they're at and she's Likeyou, you Cak N, the a that are watching their bluarlikeand like clutch teyterical. So now, that's like, if somebody's being aflusy, I'm like that's o critic Itsdumb, but like that, that's lat's,that's kind of my go tun. I was like, Oh that personis such a ood criticanyway, but that that movie, like other than that little moment like I can'twatch it and enjoy it at all. Now like it's like no she's being a terribleperson, and I can't root for her and Sheid like even at the end of the movielike it seems like she doesn't like actually regret. Oh, I almost destroyedthis wedding and my friend was getting married to this really nice girl and Iwas a jerk about it because my own, I was being selfish,like I like. She doesn't even like regret it that much. I'm like no likethere's nothing redeeming to me about this movie, So best friends, wedding, again thingsthat, like totally like there were someaspects of the film that I just totally missed like. Oh, I didn't get the factthat they used to sleep together a lot and and and like again, because thattotally, whenever my head in high school little Andison acstually missedthat like and like now, I'm like, Oh, Oh, no! No! This totally changes thetone for the movie sell anyway, my best friend's wedding, that's one! I justcan't really enjoy anymore. Fair. All right so well wrap up since it's almostmidnight for us when later than usual, but yeah. So you know let us know ifthere's a movie that you liked it first and now he you hate or that you hatedit first and now you love at. I am curious because it is interesting tosee you know. Oh I missd this on this N on th. First Time I watched it and nowI get it so I'll just pose with this. My mother initially did not like ScottPelgem, like really dislikeded, to the point where she was like. How do youguys enjoy this movie? That wasn't? You know that was a terro e hit, wasn'tpunning Oll but of course it's one of our favrite movies, so we would watchit over and over and over and over and over again and eventually at some pointI feel like the fifth on six time, she'd watched it drudgingly. She aslike. You know what I think I get it now and so sh she's on board. The Scotpilgrim train so goes taut to you Mama, but you canreach us. Let us know your Athost, your opinions, even if they're wrong dulyyou can reach US duly debated at gmailcom or send us a tweat at dearlydebated. You can find me at Holy Golen Ashley all right, so you can hit me upon the tweets at the nerdy blocker. You can like my facebook page atFacebookcom, the neardy blogger. You can read my blog nerdy blonging dotwordpresscom. You can also find my work, my written words at Fangrecom and popculture retroramacom. I also...

...occasionally contribute to the popculture retrorama podcast and Geshien to you. Heure. It dearly debated Gayson,Oh Greg, all right yeah, one of you go. You can fid me on facebook at chapter.One films, this is great. We're talking about nojasonone, is spelled out.Onyyou can email me Greg Ot chapter one films, Tot Biz CEC on my websitechapter, one films, Dod is and on Instagramat chapter underscore oneunder score: films, Yeah and you can find me at comic ECOM on my block or on acomic exile on pitter facebook and anemail, MEA pcoma pixile. I A co all right and WWe'rl going to close thatwith Jason. I have to show you the majesty of the Jajona Jameson laugh atchain. So this is for you. I love Jjo, Jason, all right, cannit,everybody.

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