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Dearly Debated
Dearly Debated

Episode 21 · 9 months ago

The Garbage Go-To

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

We're looking at "guilty pleasures", for which we feel no shame whatsoever! Ashley is the phantom of the podcast, and Greg and Nathanael have a silly sing-along! 

What you'R listening to son? I don'tthink you like it. Why not? I like this new generation to music toile on it's time to welcome to duly debated the show whereYoure entile to your opinion. Even if it's wrong, I'm your host, Nathanielree shells, Levanson all right. Let me try yo I'nathanel murder, death, killnLevinson, that souns more metal tos like the same movie with me in live inthe studio. I am Greg who's that Pokimon friends and virtually with ustoday am Ashley, I'm a rock star Thomas, and this is kind of so today. This iskind of an idea that we had had kind of put on our o o to do list. IFIT waskind of bag, but we kind of mentioned it. Last week, Yin O rouncol episode. Youknow you have stopfe knowing Wer we're, calling it guilty pleasures, but Idon't think that's actually the right term, because I don't feel guilty aboutanything that I watch like I watch things. If I enjoy them, then I enjoythem like I, I don't feel guilty. So I think, even though you could considerthese guilty pleagers, I think guilty pleaers, just the wrong term shoughwe're going to call this dumpster diving, but this is the stuff wowere like thisis not good, but I kind of love it anyways and there is definitely subjectivityhere, as with all things media right, but if it's got- and I am te if it'srotten on Ronn tomatoes- and you love it- this is this is what we're talkingabout. This is what we're Tak butand then I think also stuff whereyou're like this is not intended for me, I'm not the intended consumer at all,but I still love it. The example I use, which I think has a stigma about it.I'm not sure why but I's like the Bronis right, they're, watching mylittle pony, which is clearly not intended for them, but they're enjoyingit unironically right, that's the sort of thing again, not a guilty pleasure.U Just like I mean like this isn't maid for me, but I enjoy it or somethinglike this is trash, but I enjoy it kind of like Taco Bel. You know what's badyeah, but you love it anyway. So yeah yeah, that's what we're talking aboutthe TACO bells of movies and for me, that's very pressient. So I'mgoing to go ahead and start us off Ie foo, een, heav, a clip maniac isiminent requestedvice, with a firm tone of voice demand maniac, I now withhands behind bat. Simon Phoenix lie down with your hands behind yourback. What's this six of you such nice tidyuniforms? Oh I'm so scared, but you guys don't have solcasm anymoreMeani CAS respondin with a scornful remark, Ltiatin an even firmer tone of voice,add the words or else Simon Foienix lie down on the ground, or else that's from demolition man,which is the movie that I love that actually doesn't like I'm indifferentto you're, indifferent to basically the premises. WESLIC snipes. Is this insane bad guywho's like killing people, and so that's just alone- goes to stop himand he manages to catch bushly. Snipesoestly snipes makes it look like sothat'stus alone cause collateraldamage in the form of a bus, foof civilians, even though the civilianswere already dead. It was a frap that lesles Nihe so late, so they both getfrozen and Chrio chambers whether be rehabilitated like Ne neurallyrehabilitated. So then a the in the future which, what do you remember theyear of the Future Thousand and twenty yeah? Well, theymentioned the Mitchano Yeah, so they mentioned that as Nwhen when they wake up so so, okay,so one of the bad guys wakes up Westley snapes because he's like Oh, I need acripinal to do some dirty work. For me, it's two thousand and thirty, two, twothousand and thirty two thank you so no Tho, far off yeah. So so so theymentioned tha here they they mentioned an Simon Phoenix escape on this crialfacility. We've had eleven MRER, deat kill so fajus point out, th th thatit's not murder. It's called the murder. Death Kill Fer, no for no explainreason. So it's like the future. It's a future utopia where there's no there's,basically, no crime! There's you know!...

Everything's sunny and wonderful andTaco bell is like a high upskale restaurant. The only music you listento are like commercial jingles. Everyone speaks like draxs yeah ye H.that's, I think it's a really good way, O doscribe it. Everyone speaks likedracgs, you can't swear or you get like. profaniny violation and the police arejust completely impotent because they never have any actual crime to stop,but the region ther there work bein become a society of peace, loving, NDand understanding, and we are, quite frankly, not equipped to deal with thesituation. There have been no debts of unnatural causes in Sa Angeles in thelast Tan. Sixteen years, the Santa Barbara Los AngelesSandigometroplex for merched in two thouand and Leven. Yes, O that didn'thappen, but probably yeah, but so seven, sothey make Sotusis to lone up to try to take down Woslis Nihe because theydon't know how to deal with them and it's. I think it's really really fun. There'sthis whole thing about. He goes to the bathroom and he's like what do you dfish, three C shells in there? What do you do when theyre? It doesn't know howto use the three shows. It's a it's. It's ver ever Expoi. They never explainit. There's this weird, like quote: Unquote: Sexscene, where solvestisalone and San O lookar having sex but involves tem putting on these weirdhelmet things and he's like this is wrong. What's going on and sait youblock he's trying to quip and messing it up. Ike, you totally blew him blethim away this. I found it very fun like it is, without a doubt, a dumb action. No doubt it's dumb, IT'S THE PLOT! IsYou know it's just it? Is there it's not a goodmovie, but it's so much fun to watch, and I really think sendour book isGreat Ginit, so thats just long as Vk sinvestor on he's, literally just beingso the best alone in this movie, and he kind of sticks out like a sorth Thuminto all people who are actually acting, but it works because he's supposed tobe, you know, displaced from time, and I love it and actually apparently hatedit. I can't kind of Li. I have a very high tolerance for dumbaction movies and this one like just crossed the line likeother see well,although I did find it interesting that you had center bullock, who I love also acting alongside Benjamin Brett,who plays her love interest in miscongeniality, so I personally and there their cops inthat movie as well. So I personally found that layer kind of Interestin,even though this is several years priorbut. Everything else about themovie is like man. They all needed a check that week thatlike that theyain't got nothing better to do Nki. Just I just ack. I just love the likeright when he get writ ready for it. Tget first gets there and hes like Ican't figure out how use the three shells he walks over to the littleticket slip and just start swearing at it till it prints out a bunch of paperand it's like and walks back to the best. Yes, a that part was funny. I will giveyou that I don't think you can deni. There are thereare some really funnymoments in it again. Overall, it's just kind of a throwaway movieg like it hasnothing, that's particularly outstanding. It definitely has a lot ofreally stupid moments, but I think it's a lot of fun and it's, I think I thinkagain, which you know Atualley said it may depend on your tollen's forstupidity, but I think it's a very watchable movie. It's a dumb popcornflick. You know, have a drink, get some prience together and sit down for adumb movie that you can enjoy Sa. That will be the only way I watch it again.Yes, I'm not yeahit's, not like cinematic masterpiese by any stretch ofthe warbut is something you can enjoy with friends. I mean the first time Iwatched that was by myself and I enjoyed it. So I enjoyed it, the Welegood for you all right, Ashley. It's your turn, myter, no boy! Here we go, I got. I got your La you want to Ki you, Hu, an Murphy andtold me. I I see you. I want to Chosi Yo tate right to give them Ma nurse I'mgoing to Dan. I can't believe Youreemo Nice onvthought Ou, ere, Ai Thougyouecacat, I Gota cwhat- isthat you can't see if at Ashlley is libsiter to all of this terrible Chris Rock. Why do you evenbother doing impressions you're, not funny it's so that's Josie and the pussy cats,so why? Why would you consider this a not again not guilty pleasure but likelower quality movie? First of all, I'M gonna. I'm GOINGNA push back a littlebit, I'm going to say it's not a lower quality movie. It's not something Ifeel any guilt about enjoying. In fact,...

I very shamelessly enjoy the movie onmany many levels, but I put it on my guilty pleasures list because for mybirthday this past year, my one wish was to have a sleep over with my twobest friends, Frendand Casangra, and my request was that they watched Josie andthe Pussy cats with me Thas Aso we did, they were obliging and they watched itwith me and they both hated it. So the part part of this is there'sthere's some. I had to explain a lot of early twosands pop culture referencesand so that I think diminished their enjoyment of it, but I unironicallyenjoy judging the pussy cats, even though it was not well received when itwas released for a few different reasons partially, because themarketing for it was really terrible. They marketed like it, was a movie forten year old girls, and there are lots of very not ten year old girl, jokes inthat movie. The other reason is that people didn't really understand that itwas a satire of how pop culture a lot of pop culture, marketing andadvertising is directed at youth and how it can influence youth that forgood or ill. So it was actually really smart and really clever, and so, if youwatch the film there's advertising everywhere- and I found out actuallyjust recently that none of those were like paid ad spots like the the movieactually really like kind of made it point, whereas they've got all theseads in the background, but all of the ads they have in the background arewere paid ads. They were just you know, smattering advertising everywherethroughout the film, and I thought that was wow. That's really cool and old wasa really bofull choice, but unfortunately, when it was released,nobody really knew what to do with it, which is too bad, because it's a, Ithink, you've got a lot of really interesting stuff. You can discuss withthis film one other Clip Nathaniel from that film, one that I would considerthe guilty pleasure clip for me at least when I was in high school whenthis movie came out. The the thing that made it kind of o pleasure for me isthat, even though I knew like this was a movie that I really really loved andenjoyed and most other people did not. I was because I really loved, like thewrong calm aspect of it too, and actually duckrill actually doesn't tellpeople stuff like that, actually got over herself. So, but I really love like t the finalscene, where et this stupid, GE, uncivilized right, I real. I reallylove the this final scene, where Alan an just S, Hese love interest. He gets he gets.He tells her how she really feels or how he really feels about her, and shegoes to Oh, I think I know where this is going: Yeah, R, actually WAIA. He ustwhat else. Is there it's me wally,Hey! It's La Ocast, wally you've seen that movie. Yes, a yeahGrigg's actually seen this okay, so nathaniel. I'm Goinno try to share thiswith you with it at et me with that good Gean I go, I got Greg Ready Rollall right here. It is re that would come from. I don't know, but I can hearit really. LOUDLAVOR Temmecu it like sounds or is also this igramicat SittYeah Thi, St all right yeah, Oh noooitthe, hosteener, like Wymy fees, oin te website. What are you trying to make me do?Actually? What are you Doingelou? You tthats Wyca, O tell him. JOEC, ecked joly looks just that o fos os o make a mountain to it. ItaceoniaGNTHIS woul have been the most like over the top romantic gesture everbecause I aspired to be pup rock bron queen when I was in high school, andthat was like my idea is like this is be the best thing ever like having aband with my friends, although none of...

...my other friends really playedinstruments that were at least not my friends that were girls, but I was likeno we're going to have a girl band. You andand you're, going to find O boo andget to the top ofd makeup mountain dude that I'm in love with is going to likeyou now be crowd, surfing and confess his love for me, in the middle of myrock show that was like, like the dream. Obviously none of that ever happened tome. It's fine, I'm, okay! Boyou! Want you slit me a fiber and I'll give Bryansome ideas next time we do karaoke all right, all right. The cut over to that one person who Igot Haen't seen the movie so I've, not even the character, was hut cut over tothat one person who's. Just looking at gas is like he's getting out of hot. I she clearly had the face o. How can youdo this? This is outrageous. It's unfair eathatthat is issthis. Guy Looks likehe's about to start crying yeah because he sai. He makes like the sad cry face.He's like Damn yeahanysme oint, I gotah it ith youyeah man like so maybe we'll have guilty pleasure night, not Iwatch eElition, an it you, yes and so down. That's IT Wyhe trade. For me, that's aneasy trade ferma! You you sit out on Tha traid, but but yeah. So so for me like thatwhole like that whole movie was like total wish fulfilment for me in highschool, like that was everything I wanted was to be in a Racq fand andhave the dude that I was in love with, like you know, confess his love for me inthe middle of my rock showso ye yeah yeah, so so anyway. All of that totalwishful filment. That's what makes it a guilty pleasure for me all right, e'rPuting, my book, O er, I just ent, it's just it's just the theme just do. I wasjust going to play the trailer. Just just do the thing song, because thatties in more with why I like this movie, So is it different? Il Wait, WAITO, nevermytrain! In my Carefan, the world mu its. I ogood that song gets me so highe. LastNTNALGIC, you know thegit the that the original like the show theme song isActioll, so it like Banger, yeah and like okay. So so, if you get hard, butthat's that comes on and I'm like yeah that thing song was from Pokem on thefirst movie and that movie is excellent on hear what people say: Okay, it'sjust! I cried Jit! I have watched that pretty much every phase of my life andenjoyed it Goh different ways, an every phase of my life. There is definitely ascentoo Nestalgia that just looks at it and goes man Greg, I'm a very creative,like kind of like comically ver creative. I can't control it typeperson who ere like if I need to focus on something I'm typically having likeno like, like in a bad way, ethanels patting itself in the Bak I mean likewhen I'm supposed to be focusing I'm having like battledroid fights itandnelike igh. What do you think about any business plan and IM LIKEOH NON WAT Sto consume? What used to consume that part of my subconscious was Pokemon asa kid growing up, even to an age where it was like, that's not longer cool. Iwas like that still was a definitely playng in my head all the time and itwas always. I was having pokemon battles in my heads. I meanso there'sdefinitely a sense of nostalgia. That's carried along with hearing the theme orgoing back and watching the old parties. Now they've got like lamp shapes thatare pokem on and it's like, Hey, it's Chandole or Mon, and I'm like this isstupid, but the original ones it' say I look back and I still get all thatNistalgiso. That's part of it to. I think a movieis just excellent, like nonot for the fact that, like it's entertaining because you get to watchlike you know all those poklon battle and like I find that to be cool justbecause I'm a child,...

...and I still find that cool you knowdidn't know that. But apparently I do, but also the themes that touches on ithas a wie variety of themes and emotions, and it's a like. The primarypurpose of the movie, like is a pretty deep for a poke Mon rinbar focus, he'sa clone figuring out the purpose to life, and I'm like Dan, you guys gintto Bo am Boit was like you are a pokemon show that features he couldchew. A yellow mouse that shoots electricity with comical team rocketchasing you constantly, and then you come out with a movie about a clonewho's pondering the meaning of his life, and he can take and he's killing peopleand literally s murdering people, and it's like wo. Even as a kid. I felt socool watching that because I was like man like you to doesn't mess around atall. He's, like you screw all you guys, you think we're just these things. Allof a sudden there was like this ethic moral dilemma to pokemon. I was likewait year to yeah he's got a Bu, you can't just capture them and use it andthen ashes like well. We Love them, and I'm like well he's kind of making thisargument, because this is what makes you know the primary character standout for all the other ones, which is, which is something I enjoy, because themost of the time when you're watching a ash is kind of o noxious care, he'skind of whiny the whole time he constantly has these poce on itshouldn't be when he fights they're all underevolved and he's beating all thesereally cool hogem on and you're kind of upset about that, and really this moviegivs him gives like him the feature of being like okay.What he's actually good at is important here because he becas the thing he'sgreat at throughout the whole entire show Thayr pretty consistent with it isthat he really doest love his Pokaon it they want to stay outside the Boke ofalls hell. Let him say outside of Moco balls he's got the really goodconnection with this pokemon more than anybody else, and this is why theytranslate that to he's a better quote: UNQUOTE: Trainer andthinghes! That's sofunny, though, because like he's objectively, a bad poky, Munh yeah andhe was like Oh brock, you seinor, onyx Qortle, don't wor my boy pick at youguys s yeah! He doesn't understand. typt diffences at all, and, admittedly,like the fighting is different. INE ANA yeah. He totally cheats he's like well.Let me Tu the sprinklers on an Dena. What to Gi him like? AH ND. That's thefrustrating part about his character. You know as agree you can don'tly HifYoun call it charcter development. I mean kit' a comen Ri yeah exactly, butit's the way he's featured in the movie is like all of the sudden. That plays areally big role, the fact that he actually treats his bokamon as as equalnot equally quite equals, but he loves them and he treats them really well, asopposed to the normal, typical trainer which Muju is upset about, saying youthink that we're under you were not. You think that you're better than us.That's not the case and ashes like well. That's not true at all my relationshipwith my pocal lines, lot different. I love them an theire, my counterparts,yeah. I treat them respect, and so it's like okay. He finally has a role toplay here, so his purpose felt a lot better. Here I am, I you know gettingphilosophical and deep about Focemon, but that's why I think it's a greatmovie and I still enjoy watching it. I think the fight scengs are cool. Ithink that, seeing where that music comes on so thatsee, that's the openingtheme that we played, but that song is only played one time and that's n in apokemon battle before he goes an FITES mutube with a random stranger Hou. Justlike hey your ash, Ketghim Myon. I want to poke abattle you and so that songcomes on and when I first heard that I'm like no, the opening theme isalready banging, but now there's this version, and I was just getting higptsand like no life, I do anything pokmon related like if I want to go back andbe INASTALGIA can play the one red and blue version, which I knew or like gothrough a pok on searchbook tit', just gin of like Hey, find this spoke mon,which I do IWILL blast that music on repeat. I Lo that song gets me so hypedguilty, Pud rights and like if you weren't emotionally moved when ash getsturned to stone and Pekald Choese like weeping over his dead body, then I'msorry you're, not human, and all I have to say to you is: Do Tank Me Ki, you asI will it's s. The battle everybody just sa ther was like. Ohan was justlike it's like I meanand as a kid you're reallytustling with like a okay, he's, shocked him like a munch of times andit's the connection you have. You know with a dog that you love or somethinghe's doing the same thing. He always does to get ash to wake up and heshocking and that's the comic relief in all the shows, and it was almost like:Hey guys, this movie's Goinna be a little bakeorit. You know like he's,not just gonna jump up like he norally doesn't comically, say ow, bi, he'smore like and so you're sitting there like. Oh mygosh like wait. What what as a kid, I was like: No, NO HOU EVENEAN! Obviously,now I'm like silly kin. Of course, I couldn't kill a Bash Kitcion, you O, sothe I saw the second f Te Pookim on the movie two thousand, a D and teerIsagragu. It's pretty good, it's not as good D and e youtues being able to talk made sense,Oh yeah, right because he's like this incredibly intelligence, Sychic, pokieMon, although you know the the lar pokion is kind of, is whatever theywant it to be at the time sour pop tedex entries for Alcisamis, like he'ssmarter than a super computer, okay,...

...yeah! Well, why can't o talk whys? Heholding other two spoons, like hat that smart, like yeah, please it', Os m Yome so smart, but I get U Por like aren't the other one smart forbeing able to summon lightning. Why does somebody Psychic Poersnih and theoffics like? Well? I learned how to talk by being around people. Okay. Well,I didnt know the other ones tuck. I think I don't want you an N. do it iththe SI he's like he can do mimic so heimexseem. It Le's like a parrot, buthe that somehow that made him like, and the funny thing is when they do like meout back story, he doesn't spend time with anyone. I don't remember. Hi spendtime with anyone wo sounding like a New York Ganer, the Ood, so ye got that hedid that it waswh. What should my accent be? Hey I onbag. Yes, you havedone that yourself. Anwa you, Wai, love, Meut, but n move to sand slow king isthere. He can mysteriously speak and Lugia can also Spiak NOP. I was wit, Iwas hoping, would be Holo or who or Howowa rouner, because I was a pokingMonfol, so I had told, is well e, H and so, and hello makes an appearance inthe very first episode yeah. So I was kind of hoping they would tie that backtogether. Like the very first episode he sees Ho flying over Oialisma, theonly a hundred fty one botyou couldn't have seen that but yeah, I think Ithink likeing Pokyou on now. You can still oh my gosh. It's got it's stillgoing. I think it's I don't know is AC stil the same age, yes CAUSI, becausethe hoice actor who plays Ash Tho Naomi on, has a really good ashketching voiceand I feel hes because she's female it's easier for Buouy CATCI woys,because a woman does the voice of Vech Catchem, big you. I you there's athere's a Greatowell while you're pulling that up. I was curious, likewho sings that that that Banger of a theme song, the artist who sings the PUKAMON theme,is Jason Page now this Guy Etailer does the voice o Tryeea. Yes, Sir ash er saying the original introYeahy, yes, a D Jason Pagehe's, a guy who does the he sings the theme for forPokimon. So apparently this guy, he he's a vocalist and he toured for ayear as the leader of the Le Legendary band blood, sweat in tears, like t I've,never heard of that is a musical gap fix it. But yeah he's done a like a lot ofreally interesting stuff. He shared the stage with Michael Jackson as the rapSol wast for black black or white, so he does little little rap break downfor Black Ligte, oh, which is pretty cool. He can be herd on foreigners,can't slow down meetlook that out a hell three, the scorepons hour, oneFranki Valleys, romancing the s and on the art of McCartney tribute CD. So hedid some stuff butwhat. You say he will never suppass that original things Onsisay: There's actually like a whole paragraph on hereabout. Everybody loveshim because Hashtek POK IMMON, so so this guy his voice actor, did a skip,witissue voice actor, all right, Pekit Chou this is it GNA, tough battle.We've come this barn works so hard to get here and finally victories in ourgras week. Just one more hit will be champions here. We go tink it you, youthunderbon, fover storwwat. You know you can buy these at the POK. Mar Right.Ino takes away the challenge of the battle. Don't you think I'm going to dothis about twenty more times, Ithinkus Nao yeah you can give up. You just gotto P me Tweo. You know, I'm like ten years old right, an you got a black O wthis part. I rtoitous very impressive and she's been doingthat since wile. Since I was a kid, as I know, ash is still in the main. Theymay have changed the photagonist, I'm not a hundred percent, because therehave been so many series actually do. Yeah IES Jees, it's been a lot. I mean the thing is the finy thing is:is Ash never changes but, like brock goes to do his own thing? Mysty goes todo her own thing and he keeps picking up these randos and he never getsbetter. Soposi bue never has a he's just this mediafr trainer. As like whatds it even get the LTT tinger better, but you get money for winning it's apretty solid life. I yeah yeah, it's not at being professional, ATN, yeah,yeah, okay, so cycle back to me and just to just toclarify rel quick. So it looks like Ronica Taylor, who was Ashketcham. Sheretired from them position at in two thousand and six, but show is stillgoing on and a lady by the name of...

Sarah Natachiny, I'm Goingo, probablyWulto. That has been in the role since two thousand and fiveBoton for her wow she's two years younger than me. That means that she'sbeen watching pokemon since in Pikacucses, like twenty, you meanyou mean ash. Yes, yeah yeah, I ge nothat. There was a great clip from aJapanese talk, show where they had the the the voice actors, who did the voiceof Pikachun and so they're. Like you, the voice see the voice and she doesthat Beka Bin and I', just like S, is really adorable to Goshekan here in Charlotte a fewyears ago and the actress who does the Voice of Bolbasor was there, and so sheshe said, oh a are, and we all ie cried you gotanolike. How do how do you? It'slike need someone to voice small animal that say e Sam word and just Yeatuniexactly what I mean just you that on your a job Wer, I just say you onething over and over again or for this job, all right. The cycle back to me nowwhen it comes to. I know that there are things that I watch that are just likerashy that I enjoy anyways. So I'm just going to kind of say all the old JackieJam movies are Cheesy as hell yeah, but they're so much fun, so ether, Doub, T',terrible, but there's so much mun to watch because Jackie Jan doing crazy,stuts just never gets old. To me it's just. I love it. Love Old Jack, Cam Mos.I mean I love Newjackin Shan movies to there's something about him in hisprime doing these wacky things with these plots that don't make a whole lotof sense, especially if you think about it too much, but just like yeah. Thethe movies se made before you came to America are just sensational and I lovethem all and they're, not very good. Like from the movie standpoint, thestuds aren't, Bectactiv and, and always in the bloobers is the funny stuntswhere it's like. He messed that one up and then there's this stuns were likeis he did he die after thi? They always have those they always bofen like everybone. In his Bob Yeah he's an insane she's a super.Apparently he ment he did a movie with Hecele it. A thought and theywere doing,like ther they're played by Ivousely, actually hit him and Jack Jagot likeknocked across the room and broke a rib or something, and he got ithes like I'mfine, because he wanted to stay in the room with Brucly wa, Priis Erle, just Brov, my Brit, it's the Guy Yeah, so Jackie Chan is just e yeah and I wouldthere's its it's like. I would recommend whated their cheesy actionflick, but they have that that unique feature of doing these crazy stunts.It's something you just I mean there are people who do their own stunts, butnot not like Jackie Chane Jack Chan is is like wacky. It's like buster kinhe's. You he's he's very much doing. WACKY IEN dangering stunts that you're,like no human, should be doing this and it looks great because it's himactually doing thesehns mean often times the people that pind youercertain things in film, like theyr actual movies. Aren't you never reallyhear them all that much yeah? It's like I mean like one of the most bollrising.You know hated on movies out. There is I starwars episode, one Yeah Yeah, thatwas the first ever digital movie shot. First, ever you know completely CGIcharacter, and yet it didn't do a great job in charge. I kind of a mess of acharacter, but it was impressive that the fact tha they did, that they waslike. Oh Wow, nobody's ever tried to do this before, whereas Jackie Jam movies,I acreee, are incredibly corny and just painful at time to Wat, but you'rewatching a master mean you're watching Somethi buy, who said action movies aresilly. You guys just go and make a ton of camera cuts and they'reembarrassingly off like they're to swing itg, nothing and the guy fallsdown. You need to do it like this, and it's just these long cuts where it'slike. How long were you filming? How many times did you have to do that tomake sure that you've got all that fighting in because he'll you knowe'llgo through four or five different people in tin, the camera guts and youlike Yeah Jeez? If you missed one of those things, he'd have to re, do itanhe talks about e taps about redaing certain stunts Yip like a hundred time?Yesin, I think, is rein to he like slides Toh, one of the ticket boothwindows, likhe's up and the slice tro it and and the blubers it's like tentakgs its too more than pin pig, Soh Yeah Werso. He keeps getting stuckbecause it's is teen teny Wino that he barely fit through and you just tryingto slide right through I mean in one of those I think Chunkishng, how nights or somethingthin I nam Os. He has the like. There was a hat in thear and then he catchesa gun or something ort, something, and he said Yeah that seemes specificallytook him like one hundred plus tries and the guy was just like. Listen we'vegot one of each. We, an kind of put it together, es gone or no, that's not howwe like we're going to do hen both thewor, I'm going to do it perfectotherwies. Why E we here yeah like why...

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I he did the voice and then, at the end of eachepisode like they would do like a little segment with Yo orthinglike orsomething it was sa. That's what I remember more thanthe show is like all the Qanas with him, and I was like wow. He really doesevery single stunt ever wow yeah. I yeah it's really as go back and watchit. He was a he's like an adorable old man, though so yeah. That's I om S. I didn't play aclip because it's visial, that's SOM of my Oritar, the armor of God or operation. ConDoors are both really good yeah. That's that's! When W we watched Y SUMUP ANDPROJECT AAND PROC a two are both your that for the lifeman. I think it's, Ithink its project, a No. I think it's the first Operation Condor that has themost ridiculous car chas scene. It's the where they la eving aroude, likeramping off the bridges so good. I love it so much. It was like matchbox carsexactly what it was like ts like the ice. Five identical old beamers, justsipping in and out like this. 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...would say t the movies that he madebefore he came to America and Startd, making Mus in Hollywood. Those are theones that I would point, as quote unquote, guilty pleasures right. Ithink they're not great movies. As far as movies goes, but there's so much funto watch. I really like the car and that movie the yeah. I had to go. Lookit up again. It's a Mimitsubishi, Colt, targa concept, car OES, the concept Gar,it's not Evenahar! That came out. That's great. It looks like its justtake Yahyeah. It is a special one off modelmade by Misudishi for the movie ther. So so they made those knowing thatthose cars would get flown off the bridges into the ocean. That's one thing: that's something Iappreciate about James Bond is James Bond, has very blatant product placeentfor the cars, but the gurs still get destroyed. There's a lot of places like Prodiplaced it theyre like we can't show it getting destroyed, or people goin toassociate our car with getting blown up. It's like no, that's why I like noairline or train or bus or whatever would actually allow their brand to be usedin planes, trains and automobiles. Yep frands are very, very iffy about theirstuff being portrayed as getting glown up or destroit all right, ourope. All Right! Oh youwant to you, want me to play this yeah say you cont play the clip or absolutlYo. Let me to explain a little first Liand, let reg listen to it. Let MeGuess: What's happening, okay, that seems reable. Twenty O centry fucxpresense fantom of the Paradis. I've got Thi care story with that. A Beautiful Love Story, a cinematic odyssy through the RockUniverse, from Greece to glitter and theund the men who created it, thegirl who Sayet the monster who stolen and the Fatom who haunts the Paradise,the ultimate rock palace, inothe parodites such a long trail. It's a two minutetrailer old trailers were so long Hese. It's like anime, intere, songs, whech.It's like we're just going to play a full Song Bor, the Interne, this twentyminute, anime episode all right, so you wan to explain.What's going on here, okay, okay, so so I chose Phantom of the paradise becauseit might be one of the best examples of what I'mtrying to get across is. I have a deep and abiding love for theater of theobscure and cult film. Phantom of the Paradise is an one thousand ninehundred and seventy four rock opera that is written by Paul Williams anddirected by Brian Dopalma. It has really cool cinema tography. This isBrian Apalma. I can't remember if this is before. After carry you either ofyou remember off the top of your head of what you're going ore was. I don'tremember anything off the OP, my head, I have the Internet. I've crippledmyself, okay, so this is two years prior to carry. It actually uses someof the same like the way that he frames like. If you guys, you guys have seen,carry correct okay. What is I su that I haven't seenanything IDT Know Karet carry's kind of a bit ofa UBIC. What is horror films? I know if I a lot of movies from the s to the s I'mvery familiar with, but have not actually watched. Okay got it all right,so fan Ol. The Paradise is kind of like a hybrid fan of the opera and fast, so,the the main guy in the film like he he's asongwriter he's trying to break into the rock music scene and the song thathe kind of breaks in with it's about howhe'd sell his soul for real love and so Jessica, Harper Hos, the leadue by theway she's also the leadingsusperia yeah. So if she looks familiar, that'swhy itis a few years Berfore is Peria E. I right I'm sorry the good susperio right pery,although she is in the bad suspheria as well, has im but she's the lead in thegoods Sisperia, one thousand nine hundred andsenty nine, so anyway, sothey're in line for this song contest and h, he hands her. You know his sheetmusic and she sings the song and he's...

...like yes, that's it and so she kind ofbecomes his mews. Well Paul Williams. You know singer Paul Williams, who waspolific Song Writer, most probably known best by our generation, forwriting a lot of the stuff with the muppets. Like Rainbow Connection, youread all the music for him up at Christmas Carol that sort of thing hesteals this rock opera and frames, I'm blanking on the Leaguecharacters name, I believe his name is Jimmy Jimmy. I don't feel like that's right.What did you say? It's Jimmy Ian say Jimmy's, my daddy'sname from restore W winslow winszaw, it's play by Wood Ben Jmy Winslo no anyway. He he ends up framing windslowfor this crime, winslowans up going to prison, Paul, William Stills, all hismusic, and he becomes super popular, sells all these records and elimes, aspoll Williams, Paul Williams, as what is Soepa her swa, okay playing himself as AAs a pief of music.That seems like a bad thing, O be like hey guys. I Steal Music Yeah! No, butanyway, he winslow goes insane, ends up in this terrible accident and becomeslike this disfigured, fanc tip figure, and he haunts the paradise, which isthis big rock club so anyway, anyway. So he makes kind of this fausty andbargain trying to get credit for his music and he's that's. Why, like? Oh,the only person that can see sing this is phoenix which is just cover anyway,so think about Phantomo of the paradise as it's it's. What rocky horror pictureshow is to Frankenstein it's not as widely known. I learned about this onthese Saturday frights podcast a few years ago, and so I added it to myNetflix Dvdq, because I still get those and that that that was how I got towatch it. Yeah actually do I need to add also oh to this soundboard. That'swhy I need to add th. Also, Oh, yes, I am orer than you guys, you're, like just older enough to bejust over the edge into some stuff where we're like. What are you talkingabout so anyway, I specifically chose Pantomof the paradise because it visually it's really cool and weird, and likecreepy and Gothic- and I just I love how weird it is. The cinemotography inthe film is really cool because it's Brian to Palma and he's kind of knownfor that sort of thing and the music is great. You O musicals thing yeah like on my Halloween Party playlist. Iactually added that Song that Jessica Harper was singing right as you stopthe clip, but anyway, it's great music would definitely recommend, but I chosethis film because it really represents how I'll watch almost anything, nomatter how weird or obscure or strange it might be, because I'm curious aboutthe kind of story, it's telling there's a few different ways. I go downthese rabbit trails. Some is because I listen to a lot of like retro podcast,and a lot of some of them are like Retro Horror Focus like I mentioned theSaturday forights podcast, which I've occasionally contributed to so that wasthat was how I found out about this movie, and you know so. I find outabout these. Weird films was like wow. That's really strange. It sounds kindof interesting I've never heard of that. Occasionally I'll get lucky and theyrestreaming somewhere, but most of the time these are ones I end up, adding tomy Netflix Dvdq or I go hit up the Vizar Vado in Charlotte, because thisis where I find theater of the obscure without paying like forty bucks for advd on Amazon. You know I felt like that was kind of a good example of thatone, that's probably a little more watchable and enjoyable than some ofthe stuff I've watched like you know. I've watched some reallybizarre and weird things and like a Tar, K, nork stars not that bad its realy weirdit was. You do pretty weird next time, Somthas Likei was able to. You know T et wasdark. Star was MITE re. I could go back and rewatch it, but I could definitelysee it being too weird for some people to tolerate Oh yeah yeah, this one yeah, I don' I don't know, Ithink you guys might find it interesting. I don't know that youwould one hundred percent enjoy it, but the music is good, none, the one es,but anyway, that's that's kind of how I find out about these things. I also theother way I kind of go down this weird rabbit trail of theater of the obscureis sometimes like. If I really like a director or if I really like an actoror an actress, I will watch- and I do this with music to I like to go andwatch everything in their cataloge, because I want to see how they progressas an artist Wendelind Christi. Obviously my queen all Hale. She alsoloves theater of the obscure, and so...

...because I love her. I we a lot of herstuff and they are all like just utterly like some of its just utterlybizarre totably, a film. She did a couple years ago, called in fabric infafric is kind of like if David Lynch and Daria or Gento had a baby, dariageArgento being the director of Susperia but visually. That film was also Speriaand it was a weird por comedy that was like kind of racy and dirty, but it wasalso kind of like sisterhood of the traveling ev evil dress on that level like I enjoyed it, but Ithink I watched it and enjoyed it as more as like kind of an love letter toSusperia, because it was so weird but, like I can't think of anyone that wouldever enjoy watching thati think that fits our definition pretty well like, like. I there's certain thingsthat I will call in it's my Birtn, the it's my birthday card and t my friendswatch it. That will not be one. I Make AnybodyWatch yeah so anyway, theater of the obscure Ithink, I'm using that term correctly. I've said it about twenty times, so Ireally hope that I am using that correctly. I've never heard the termtheater of the obscure for the trimtiater of the absurd. You could be absolutely right. Atheater of the absurd of the assert is the better Tom Yeah I just googledtheater of the obscure and what is theater of the absurd thats. What cameup but anyway, I like stuff off the beaten path. I like stuff, that islesser known, and, and I don't sorry that probably makes me sound like superpretentious I don't meanthe word I would use, is a hipster Thintlikei, don't even feel hipsterabout it. At's, like think as transesipsters kind of gettingmainstream yeah R yeah, I'm like 'here's. This weird cult,film thing I found and people are like: Why on Earth? Would you care to watchthem like because why wouldn't you anyway Bano the Paradise? I would. Iwould definitely recommend that one if you want to kind of a interestingfastyan Phantom of the opera rock opera, so all right, yeah next time. I be why I feel likefor all of those like. Oh Ienjoyed it. I'm blaming this whole thing on you. I enjoy this thing. Why?Why why all right great ightyes man, I've gotso many men that have been sitting here. Thinking about it, but I think I'm ginaget ot with this one, because it might generate a little bit discussion, maybehand en iuh be good s. So I'm a big INI channel on fan well his original stuffright when he tapered off okay. So so he made he need some bangers. Obviouslyman, six sense, unbreakable, Adt signs and he made a movie called the village,an this Peter a little bit right. He had a good amount of his fan base, buta lot of people were like all right, that's a little too far and then, wherea lot of people think you just completel went over Thea happenehereright. No, it was actually moving before that coldly lady, the water yeahlike Ladin. I like that movie. I think it's, the villageis amazing to the lady ladyin the water, I'm googling with the twisting Wub lady in the Water D.There's really action, ou O keep well. If there's there are slight twist andbasically the whole entire movie of lady in the water is telling, I believeit's an old Spanish, like bolktail type thing about a certain kind of there's.Essentially, going to be like a bad like scary monster kind of introduced-and there will be all of these things that will kind of save the day likelike you're, going to dedefined Xliancy, there's going to be like and they havedifferent labels. He'll need to find a Gil, and this this guilt will do xynzin a story. You'll need to find a projector, and this guy's going xpyn sin the story, and this is introduced via a ecalls herself, an NARF, thischaracter called Cleveland, finds her. He runs a it's like a motel big thing:Flsh apartment complex, he finds her in the whool and he just thinks Jes, someGorl that passed out of the hole or something but in reality he's from adifferent world and she came for O. It's call. He and she explains thiswhole story- that there have been dark forces that have come from her world tothis world and the all these tings the found and they find hem within theapartment LEX anyways. The twist is that they, theyconstantly think the wrong characters of the different characters store likeokay. We found the guilt it's clearly these guys that sit outside they smokeall day and you're kind of getting to know everybody in this apartment,complex and theyre. Your typical guys guys at never pay rent and then there'slike the single. You know, father and his son and there's the old couple andthe anyways and so you're getting to know them all, and you kind of thinkthat they're all he's fit in these...

...certain roles wat an reality o theydon't like like th, they constantly find theire like certain people afterin certain bills, and Ti get the wrong that wrong anyways, it's kind of a B t.It definitely is bizarre, but it's very cool and- and it's told kind of in thatfirst person narrative where she's explaining what's going on, I enjoymovies like that. The acting is incredible: it's got Aul Giamati as theBain Charter, Peland, ands excellent, has a few other esupporting actors thatescape me. There is definitely some big inging problems with it that everybodywas like all right dude, so I so in might shem on always cast himself as arandom. You know canmeo Er in this one decided to cast himself as a worldchanging author and t also the stepen king mov. It's like II kind of a redflag when you, as the author cast yourself as a world. Changing author inyour own movie, it's like dude and literally like that was one of the mostdistracting parts is that he literally sits there. While people tell him likeshe can basically see the future and so she's telling him you writing is goingto change the world. Ane Si nouts great and I'm like in Thi Shami, my aIsnwrrit's like so that part is a little comical. I remember even at thetime being a little offfut, but there ere not really interesting parts andfunny and goofyough characters to really keep you entertained and theacting like is mainly driven by Pauloga moddy and it's excellent. He plays sucha lovable character. He's got a Stutter, but every time he's around this girl,he speak fine and he didn't know why that is, and so he's a very lovablecharacter. There's some other really funny. Characters is a guy who worksout. Half of his body- and he kills himself he's like a science experiment,he's just a meathead and he's like his right side is just jacked in his left.Side is itslike. You have these characters that are hysterical and likeand like. The guild is just this, like this room. Ful of like ends up beinglike this roomfull of like these Spanish sisters that are alwaysscreaming and yelling at each other, and they end up being the guild andthey have to play this huge role in the movie and they have to like convincethem to like help them with. Like you know this mission, and so it's just sofunny like there's a and there's some really cool cool moment to i 's aitit's a really. I think it's really cool. It's Definitey, like I can seelike when people are like break the movies, terrible, I'm like okay, I knowbut like I'm not just being a homer and what I say that that movie is fun towatch like it's a GIT's awesome. I like that movie. So on time, I've seen I enjoy it. Yeah andI shot is like- were LD changing author N, of course, I know any time you have offer and certainstuff, it's a dangerous thing, all right, so Soantan sterted himself into theinferno, but he was more of an observer. He was. He was hanging out with allthese other ofthers. It was totally like wish fafilment yeah, Oh yeah, so but it's great literature Apais. SoI I was looking at the twist for thatethe water. All Nine am Ni Shon on movie to this brank from six six cents tosplit number nine at the very bottom might expect. Is the happening I'sgoing? No read the last line. This is one step remove from the lorax beingrevealed as a cereal we Gota Matsoso. I want to. I want tochange. Tak Jfe little bit talk about a game e video game that a video gamethat I love, that is just objectively a bad forly Mak. Now you know anythingabout Sakta hedghog he was created as a counter to Mario, like directly wasintended to be a mario rival and for the first bit he was so you had sonicones like two, which is considered one of the better ones. My personalfavorite son, three with the end nupples of Sontre Noti, that's mypersonal favorite think the music. I use the soundtrack for someof threeknuckles in the background of the PODCAST, all the time, ies one of thebest videogane sondracks period. But then, when the dream cast came out,they made the transition to thrd with son. I cand venture and Oh sonic didnot take well to tred bay, so sonic adventure was just a mess.They introduce all these characters like big, the cat and you're like wo,is this guy, and why do I have to constantly go fishing? I don't want todo this and then you know eventually came uptwith sonic adventure to battle and first of all, ae me. First of all, oneof the best opening stage pracks of all time, edit the escape yeah city escape.Oh, my God, Youre like oh I'm Goinna play some SOTTIG. Let me let me justboot this up, real, quick and- and this starts playing...

Ska down the Roadaes to go down folowmy Fambo Ahonyowa to fijust what you can see a my h me. Se Me beatdust me Erya game, Fomtheooh, my yeah, so that song starts playing and you'relike okay, what's going on, but they they split into so you're playingassigning and those parts are okay. It's still like it's clunky Te cutalSICAN bready, but then they add you're playing as tales who, for some reason,is piloting a met. Then knuckles. We O have t like O, run around and dig upgems with these really up to his clues at yet that is just miserable Eah theybreak. Is it break it down to three category? You have race Lev Ats, whereyour son, you have you have battle levels where your tails, which kind oflike you know like it's, essentially like a slow race, yeah, and then youhave treasure hunts where your knuckles, where you're searching and Thos justterrro yeah those Gids, you got Ta. Look her clues and it's reallyinteresting, watching the speed Ron because they basically know like theysee the coo like. Oh, I know where this is an they go, I, but then they alsointroduced, and this Isnot the first time they did this and they introducedthe idea of doing a villain's path, and so they introduced sonics. Theyintroduce a character called Shat on the Hedgehot, who is the edgy edgelordsonic, who ishe's like a clone of slot? Okay, but the first time they run intoeach other and he's cool, because, instead of running really fast, likesomic does with the narrow to run. He has skates on his shoes, which makes nosense. It's like clover, skates yeah, but so this is the first time that theyrun into each other. Sofo G, Hey tat's, you a yog again O al a Ifound you faker. I think you're, the bigaal around hereyou're, comparing yourself to me. You good enough to Beos words time to play game the music to thatgame, an yeah. It's such a good lst and Tok a tarrible game, and I love it somuch and my little sisters, Abigale Naontey they first of all, they wouldalways play the Li competitive one. W E you can rase each other and fyt eachother n do all the time, but they played with the chows. There's likethis weird side. You don't ring the chawls. I didn't say it in like theMisan. It's weird! It's like this Weind Desi aspect of the game. Where this,like this garden Rere, you can grow these little chows and if you like, youcan pick them up and just d NAT thim enough. They turn evil yea. So thegoing to devil, Chouse you're like really nice and pet, the Wollso, Ithink, to explain it better, they're kind of like they're like littleanimals that you have to tend it's like little tomagatch an and you basicallyplay soguys. You go through the real levels: wher you're sonic and all theseother characters. You acquire these attributes that you that, after yourlevel, you always go back to Chow Garden and you can feed your attributesto your your chow and then you essentially like the five atropetes arelike swimming flying, running our and then stamina, and basically you haveyou- can put them through these courses to rase other chows and they're likeobstacle courses that use all these different. You know attributes in so ofthe higher hear, Chaas and certain atrobute GE, the better better than lldo yeah, but raising your Chow E's. In my opinion, like the essence of thatgame, yets, like that's the element that takes it to next sevel, becauseyou enjoy the story, ind doing all the fun levels and the music, and it's justit's so pump up. But then you get to also be like. Okay, there's a purpose othis I want to. I want to make my job better, O stwim yeah, so its becauseyou find the stuff to upgrade your chow. You find it in the level right. It'slike thes, a Weir and silly or anything that really has nothing to do with themainput. But it's like weirdly absorbing yes yeah it a AIT's like theygo through different phases. They mature after a certain level so likeonce they get to like a certain amount of stamina. They'll go anto a cacoonand they'll goterally stay there for a day or so and like in, like when youget back eventually, they'll come out of the CACOON and Theiare Ote, unquote,mature and like their stats, go up and tlike they're mochch cooler. Lookingand every jhow. It's like you can't predict what kind of Chawel you'll getEAH and you can go to like they call the black market, which is literallyjust like a locker oner, and you go and you open a locker and there's a chow inthere. That's just like selling all these chow eggs and all these differentthings, an AK yeah and, as you like, basically get further along n in theten, the OP, the main game and upgrade you know, get the hiher rankings. Youcan buy more precedous things in there, thell vention, you can buy like thegolden caw and like t ithat, and so the channels definitely addind. It's almostlike it adds that incentive to, after you beat a game just step around andjust iee its like it's like an entire...

...extra game. Yev Hi Tafte in there fet,er, no makepul reason, yeit's, really fun yeah and all the like. Thebackground. Music is good. The the thene songs ar the one you playedthecause several of the levels just have a full song, like literally likethe song, is like that song had two more verses t. We just cut it off.Early and and they're kind of catchy and they're good, like all of knuckles,are raps and like the raps, are catching get on. Youyou, Bang, yourheads, a the Pine Thi on Yoursef. It's not ose kid, then right, AAn, TA'tquetion. That was like yeah it's Ue Kidna, but in the song teget Whith, theGuy Yells, he doesn't say a kiding. He says Acadonno Iado, I'm what Im represent we're gonna,okay, we're closing out with the knuckles Ratt gotta find the maste embel O weird. It's it's just like this. It'sis it's this absolute mess of Weird disperate ideas that somehow cometogether to make this. Like it really enfering, but that you're like yeah, itslapbers a lot and maybe made a whoop syo on the carpet every now and then,but I love it. anyways like it just yeah. As far as te be deler functionlike it yeah I glitches out. So like all ofous S, youll just fall through abuilding y yeah op all right. Well, I guess I it restart the level, but youyeah you. Definitely it still. It's still like IU PAN to go back and playyeah excellent game, ill, Grea I'll der. Then all right, yeah, it's interestingthe thing you really should add that you're so old sound to the soundboard,because I'm pretty sure the only sonic games I ever played were on the SecoGenesis. So kno I still will go back. Sonic. Three and nuckles is one ofthose games that that woull just go back and REPLAC, but I do remember Safore. Ynd nuckles. I remember me, my friends having a moment were like weare idiots because tere's important there's a point of carnival. There's apointment arnivl Zo, where t the little red road hitting drums. You have tolike get it down to a certain level so that you can jump off. We thought youhad to tie your jumps and if you didn't time your jumps ever so carefully, youwouldn't be able to se thit stay there. We would run the stage. timehouse findjump him our jumps just perfectly. It turns out. You can just hold up anddown, but we figre that ot were like are jhoking, I'm so bad bright, thet, yeah, Itot, Sounlik, a bet to battle oterrible game. I love it to death. Th Tha is a really good score. I'de, neverheard any of that. Before do we know who, like performed the Scor, I don'tknow inther frs artist, I think but t, but that one is althre's. There's one ales has this.Basically e good e was es. Here we go Isit, it was done by anartist named June, sent away so it looks like it was just Ted poly andTony Hardnow. That looks like though Tonia Harnel was the front manoffer ant and Ted Poley was in danger, danger we both listed Dagting. Soapparently they both volabrated to do a lot of the stomic. So apparently youcan get the soundtrack for sonic adventure to on Vinyl. I might do that. ISITST ISAIT' Suchyeahthat that's a it's. It looks really cool as Weit. No, no, that is that'sfrom, but anyway they did come up. When I wasgoogling sonic adventure to, I think it's it. The soundtrack is just isobjectively iredon yeah, Oh yeah yeah, there's nothing like they even have anoption in the game to just be like there's a setting, so you go tosettings an you like music and then there's just a a adigital CD in frontof you yeah and you click whatever soling want to play and it starts Sein.It ndit's on potify it's on spot. I I so Goodi will just every now then I'll,just pen up tothe, escapers Dan to yeah no e. That is really cool score. Idid it. We need to do like video game, music, pers, theressom, really good Bot.What happens I will? I will take the old stuff. Ohyeah, SOS great. You should look up, ABBOTA Ashley! You should look up the podcastlegacy music hour. I listend to that. You recommended doing a while back yeah,so so so they do yeah. I love, although I prefer he they have mixtapes for it'sjust the music, none of the toe. The very first episode I listene tothey played one of the songs from the song from level three of chanagemeetnance turtle. SFALLOFFO pland, which was one of my favorite games, isa kid and I was like I know this one. I got really exceted, alright, so so bito battle, that's mine, some of the ball Baas, all right. All right, let'ssee man so theater of this obscure is very,very general. The I think for me. I kind of want to I kind ofthrew this out on on twitter this afternoon and got A. I got some goodresponse because you know, like we said...

...at at the beginning of the show. Noneof us feel particularly bad about anything that we enjoy, and I don'tthink we should. I think, unless it's something that's unless you're gettingan illicit pleasure from it much gay Aam on you yeah, you should not feelguilty about enjoying something Mike just enjoy when he enjoys otherpeople. Say You shouldn't enjoy this because it's poorly made or it's bad orit's not for you, just invroy what you enjoy. You know what you need to say isyeah. They would you like. We got atiterestng interesting responses and alot of folks did say. Yes, I also have no guilt about the things that Ienjoyed, but some of the things that came up were see reality, TV romancenovels, buying books. When I already have shelves and shelves of books,Onread Yeah, I have that problem with books. Ihave that problem with a lot of things have one of my buddies. That is a pretty serious writer. She says I feelthe pressure to enjoy serious literature, but I really enjoy starwars, books, yeah, it's like at's, I think tep you're, like Oh Welloh, you know Ayou can speak o this. Like Ohm, youknow I read Mobie, Nick and Joi to cities, and this in that theother I' like yeah, I I read the Star Ward nobut. I wanted to read this quotefrom Simon Peg and Fun Story. I actually read this same quote in thewelcome address at my master's graduation, but soninpeg says, being a geek is allabout being honest about what you enjoy and not being afraid to demonstratethat affection. It means never having to play the cool about how much youlike something: It's, basically, a license to emote proudly on a somewhatchildlish level, rather than to behave like a supposed adult being a geek isextremely liberating. I think. While we all like we're talking about guialtypleasures and things that are you know, we really enjoy that. Maybe other people don't enjoy itas much. I think I think all of thisness is. It falls under that bannerof being Dave Girl, basically Sai. A Dave Girl of the FOO fighters basicallysays something very similar with lots, more sware words, but you know I don't believe in guiltypleasures if you fand like something like it. That's. What's wrong with ourgeneration? That's residual residual, punk rock guilt like you're, notsupposed to like that. That's not Etan Cool, don't even think it's not cool tolike Brittney Spears, toxic! It's cool like Brittny, pear, Ta Fishpoxit is aBanger, and that's now what we're openway yeah, whattatam Gd the whole guilty. bleasure thing isfull of F and Chuk, so, like so I' Lik, it's funny becauseyou know when I was younger like late, you know later in high school. You knowI'm not supposed to like boy bands right. The thing is I kind of skirtedaround that because I had an older sister, and so she was wayinto ansaitback Yo boys like when they were hot, I'm ready to turn the sentry. Oh YeahOnm, the Bllony Mo, and so I was way down with Actuan boys and instinct, andthen you know kind of ended. The entered my metal face where I was like.Oh I only like metal, but still, but now I'm like okay. I've got my bluegrass folk playlist. I've got my classical playlist. I've got my thisplayes and then I got my players to has all my boymends on it. I love it. Ilove it so much I was it was. It was so funny because I was, I was coaching,swim practice and they had a. They have a big blue to speaker in there. So onSaturdays in was put music on, and I was playing my playlist that has like a bunch ofdaties hits like tons of Michael Jackson, an tons of classic rock butalso tons of woyband stuff Bo, like by bity fears and Crimy River by Justin.Timmer light came on and there was someone on the other of the pool whowas giving a swim lesson and she just started like jamming out to it, and I's like that's what I'm talking about great wit. You know it's interestingnataniel. I was also thinking you kno kind of along those lines like yeah,I'm a Geek, I'm a nerd. I love all of these things unabashably and I don'tcare at job. My memory made me think back tobeing ten years old Greg. I don't know if you ever had these in school growinup, but you do a book order or or I can't row if I gotit through a book order or a book fair, but it was like this spider man. This is like the height ofOnethousand, nine hundred and ninety four, like Spiderman animated seriespopularity, and I ordered like this spiderman like coloring set, and I wasreally excited about it, but I kind of...

...had to hide it from like my friendsbecause they were going to you know, tease me about it. It make fun of meand- and now like I can't even like, like now. The people that would havemade fun of me are taking their kids to go, see like marvel movies. I'm likeyeah, I see, O thedefinitely became thegeneration that was like all right crit. Then we all looked around and realized.Everyy Wu everybody's, like looking around to pull ou their game boys andHEA. Wait you to. I think, it's really interesting tobecause we're in an age where it's so easy to access. Not only you knoweverything, that's current, but also a bunch of od stuff too, and people arejust like you know, getting exposed to so much more stuff that the kind ofstigma lovel- that's not mainstream is much less. I I sure it's still therinsome points, but you know you can kind of go and enjoy anything and find otherpeople who are also enjoying the same thing as a lot of. Oh for sure. Forsure- and you know it's interesting- I told that story to a friend's sister,a D who's. You know in high school and she was like wait. What people wouldmake fun of you for liking spider ban, no, like yeah, like you had to hidethat stuff like people would like. Never let you hear the end of it. Foryears later, it's LIKT YEA, here's a really good webpomic. I recall AwkwardZombi written by one called Kati at Sur, tid rich, and she had this one.Where hias like Middle School Okeman is so cool high school. I can't believeyou still like Pokimin pollege Pokimon is so cool dude that was like Yugio was a hard onefor me to shake so like I went through the faces of like Oh man. Yugi was big.They finally came out with the cards and everybody watched the TV show, andthen it was like all right, I'm definitely too old to like this, and solike now, secretly really still liking you go and like loving it, and then,when I got to college, it's still not being there until like they came outwith some online version and like I just got super into that and then like Lki Stik, Yeahyou Feon, where, whereyou know it's not a great show, but I really enjoy watching it. I was tellingGreg I watchin in Spanish, because I'm like, oh I coal, I can you know aparly, that's like a really good wayto practice languages to watch a show that you're familiar with in adifferent language with a pedals on you start, Oh yeah, I mean I totally didthat going. I was taking the Spanish placement test before I startedUndergrad, and so I was I was pretty good at Spanish in high school. I adreally awesome awesome, spadis teacher, that's still my friend, but I totallywatched xmen evolution, witnessin dump and it was so fun. What's what's reallyfunny about. Ugo is right. Tha, the in the theme songes is time to did DI. DidTe duel on the Spanish version. They move where the prepeating, where thestutter is now it's as what thathey'll well alone so now it'd be like ifteusas it's time to e teto the to do Ke Wai, but it's really funny- and I guess Toko Grik at lunch, Joey right t the New York actet, the Gabagoo, that's anAmerican thing, baby, nobody else, gas, the Gu! This is why America is thegreatest nation on er, because we got the gobbagoo nobody else, siys theGapslikekoundagain, I'm sure. If you're a native Spanish speaker, you can pickup the accents, but did they sound like they're speakingpanish? That's a Brookan Spanish Guye! Clearly Yeah! Apparently that was therewas oh. What was, I think, Crotchin TigerHidden Dragon, apparently Lik, one of the criticisms from the Chineseaudience was. These accients are all over the place really and they otheAmericans itel yeah yeah, because they they got a bunch of actors from youknow all over the place and they just spoke in their native accent and, ofcourse, we're just like well, at's Chinese right looks Su funny respective. I love that,like Ste, watching a movie and randomly like half the guys Orr just like Waiwhat you thinking o the yeah ther noyeai person like. Why did you hirethese people, like they sound like they're from Florida, ithing? That sortof thing that you coul pin their accents to Wer to their location? Butto us who has not Hedos, not hade a traite, hear to listen to ManderandChinese and has no idea what the regional accent sound like it. Youloyeah the speaking Trani. So it is, it is funny you don't think of. I mean you pick it up in like BritishEnglish, because Ocan kind of be like. Oh, that sounds more like this as LikeiBritish yeah, something you don't think about regional accents exist in everylanguage yeah and I think I think specificallyBefr Liy, something like Yvo at the time. Wos. It was kind of revolutionarybecause you could you can. I do you know Verba Tem, what they're doing inthe show like Pu on try to do this...

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