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Dearly Debated
Dearly Debated

Episode 20 · 10 months ago

What Else Is There?

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Love is in the air (don't worry, we're wearing masks) as we discuss rom-coms! Ashley boots up AOL, Greg ain't afraid of no Summer, and Nathanael escapes the Pit of Despair!

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...left a tree up until I last week, so it is what I feel likeit's been a weird Christmas for everyone. Yeah is definitely not normal, let's yeah,but that way yeah yeah. Hopefully it's not the new normal, because, like he'sgetting all the it's nice to have tsoo good, it feels it feels right. Justfeels right. Okay, so today we're going to be talking about ROM coms. Now this is a genre that have had actually watched more than Ithought I had, but most of the big ones. I had neverwatched, not because I don't like them just because I just I never sat downand watch it, which is funny because my dad loves rom cons like all of his topten movies Ar Romcoms, except for Shashank Redemption. Out of lesson El Right, but that's likethat's like he dad one coal make the Argu M, but like every dad, love ShasShankidemican, I mean it's a great movie, so you Giy can't blame him. It'sa fantastic movie, but it's just pretty funny. It's like rom come rom Tim Ro,come mom, come showshanke, Brom Com Rom. So the first thing I kind of the firstquestion I kind of want us to field which I think might be the mostcontroversial aspects of this podcast, not just for necessarily for us, butjust in general is how would you? How do you define Aron C? What makes a ROMCOM A ROM COM yeah? I guess it's interesting. It's a because I mean Ithink you have there's a large spectrum right because, because you do have onesthat are you'd, probably say: okay, well, that's more O, just a goveramromance or drama. I think romantic drama is probably the closest you'llget to Rongkom, where you might say. No, that's! That's! Not a Rong Anon that atthat point, there's no there's NOT ENOUGH COLM! It's like every movie isgoing to have some element of of funny and so you're really like. Okay. Whatpoint are you like? Okay, this is this is goofy enough to be considered aromantic comedy and not just some kind of drama and that's hard. I don't like.I don't know if I have an answer for you ash, so I was kind of a because my background'sin literature, and so I think about genre a lot, so I was kind of thinkingat it from the context of we've got so obviously, if there's rob there'sromance involved, which you know is of course important in a wrong comp. Ifyou're going to look at the work comedy, you could look at it from the kind of the Greek or you knen, likeshakespeariand definition. I will like it's so like in Greek. Plays you havedramas and you have or no excuse me. You have tragedies and you havecomedies. Those are your two gemras comedies were basically anything thatwasn't attragedy right so which I think, for our purposes isnot necessarily a good definition. So comedy is going to have some humor, butI think the tone of the film is probably going to be lighter just ingeneral, even if it's got more wrom than calm you're just going to have alighter tone because, like I think of like I, you were to take two differentRom coms, let's say, for example, something like she's the man wherethere's some romance involved, but that's mostly a comedy, and it's reallyreally funny. That's also based on Shakespeare. But then you put it sideby said with something like you've got male, which has a good bit of humor init. But it's more about the romance. But I think where, where I kind ofdefine ROM COM is Youha've got it's basically a story of how two peoplefall in love and that can look a lot of different ways could be a meat cute ora you know, friends to lovers, or I meanI'm just going to start listening all these fan fiction. trokes now lik, I mean yeah yeah, so that's kind ofwhere I lay the definition. It's going to be a story about how to two peoplefall in love, so, but it's going to be have have alighter tone, yeah yeah. So so for me, I think, I'm I think I'm pretty much onboard with where you are right, because comedy is comedies. A E, very broadcategory I think romance could be considereding more narrow category forbecause for me to give something the Romance Tag, it's not just that it hasa romance in it. Is that the romance is a central plot point. So the firstmatrix this I geiis, going to sound weird, the first Matrix is not aromance movie. The Second Matrix is a romance movie and here's why the firstMatrix the whole point of the movie is about Meo and the Matrix and him wakingup and becoming the one right. The second movie is one hundred percentdriven by his love for Trinity and trying to save her. That is the entirepoint of the second movie right, but I would argue that the first one is, youknow, a a action, philosophical action, Scifimovie and the second one is a romantic philosophical action. SCIFI movie right.So I think I think, if the if a romance...

...between two protagonists is a centralpoint of the pot that everything else kind of builds around yesh, if it's acentral thimg, it doesn't have to be the only thime f. If it's the centraltheme right, then that's a romance and for comedy I think, if the intention isto make you laugh right, the intention is to generate laughter with thatlighter tone with those Foks, whether it's slapstick or bialogue or whateveryou know. The intention of comedy is different than the intentions of drama.So you know there are dramas that have funny vits, an like breaas. We watch uswhich is defididly the horror movie, not a comedy at all, but it has funnymoments and it has funny dialogue in it. It had things that made me laugh thatwere Humor Russ, but that is not a comedy. Thoh yeah e comedy Te crimaryintent Isnit. The primary intention is to draw laughter or make fun of or tomake fun period, and that's how you can have stuff like black Commi that arenot light necessarily light in tone, but are making light of certain things.Elistit e CERT response, in the same way that a tragedy elicits a responseby being tragic and obviously you can have overliving. You have dramaticcomedies that you can have funny dramas. I think that when, if you look at theunderlying intention is the the better indicator of what, whether it's acomedy or so for me, a romantic comedy is a comedy movie for the Central PlotElement is a romance, but for me, even though I don't think most people wouldcategorized like this, not pilgrivers the world is a romantic com. It's acomendic action movie or the Central Point of the movie. The whole pot pointof the movie is about this romance between Scott Pilgrim, Andand remotofflowers. So I would argue that that's a wrong com. I coan see that yeah. That'sinteresting. I wouldn't have thought about it that way, but yeah so th. Ithink my definition is broader than most that the commonly accepted one Ishould say, which I guess I think commonly accepted one- is that Rom comsare more or less anonymous, chickflix or what's conside the you know the Ilike es like Werit's like the Guymeet guy and girl, and it's about theromance, and it's usual little or Sacarin, not always, but usually right-that the kind of Wen we're going to get into tropes and pliches later so don'twant to Harpen that too much I feel like people are like well. Is it thiskind of movie right you've got mail which I love by the way you've got maleHaron, Harriman Slife, it's one of those kinds of movies. That's aromcom!It's something where it's like. Oh this, guy's fihting, seven dudes, that's nota roncom right, but I would argue somel. You know, treof my favorite movies,Princess Bride, court jester and Bot, pilgrim, ioun, argue, Princess,bride and Scot Pilgrim ar ROM coms or jester. While it is very very funny-and it contains a romance- is not a romcom because the central element isnot IWROMG is not the Romance Queen Pennyk and I' forgetting her name. WE GA T hey andthe Harmin female lead, but the point of that one is the overthrow of thisusurper king. That's the point of that one. But to me what makes it a romanticcomedy? It's a comedy funny movie where the Central Element is driven byAEROOMG as between two characters. I think that's a good way. Tof Put itbecause- and I think that really quickly rules out a bunch of moviesthat youthere to be romantic, moveents that just might have some comedy butlike right, you like something like ive, you ever seen garden state its veryhister type movie, Zack, Braf, Okaya Thau's, a I want to say either. Is itthat's a Westr underson movie right, whereis, it coling brother? No, I thinkXACT BRAF! Actually, I think HEU might have directed it. Oh, I believe I've seen it, but it's been.It is very like you know, inte, IPS or type. You know it's got a goodsoundtrack, but a movie like that. It's like me, it's a romantic movie. Youknow he comes back to the town he used to live in because I mom passes awayand he meets his really goofy. Weird girl. It's funny. It's got a lot ofreally funny themes because she's very goofy and weird and he's just likeoverly uptight, but ultimately it's a very serious. Like you know, the themesare going through ar kind of serious and it's very ipster there's a lot ofjust like part, O there's like a lot of music and there's nothing reallyhappening, and so like. I wouldn't look at that me like that's particularly aRomcom, although there's several points that are really funny and intentionallylike you said it's not a comedy that has romantic themes. It's a movie, it'sa drama that is as a romantic theme driving it that it US happens to havesome comedy, and so I wouldn't consider I don't think anybody's, jumping outand saying this is a wrong yeah, so so yeah. So my b of Mine, my definitioncastly brought Er net, but I also like to think it's easier to define becauseyou say: Is it comedy Beck as a central around a romance between two of themator characters? Back then it's a Romcom and and obviously again John,was blend decamp genraly most things will not fit into one genrebox andaren't intended to because stories aren't generally conbeying a singlething right, theyre their complex. They have layers and and...

...like an onion al I'm saying is trek is the best moviewanany movie. You know I saw that movie snowstrek to but yeah. So so I watched so manyromcoms this week and I watched like I tried to watch a wide span. Obviouslythe golden age of Rom haums is considered, be the S to twosands, somost of the ones I watched were from there. Mag Ryan was in, I think, threeor four of the ones I watched Di. She did quit a number Youdi, quitea number and she doesn't seem to age O it'Sremarkl, a she's and th n she'sGreat. What's his name HEU grants. I think I might be in love with him he'sfantastic. You know it's funny is thinking about. Like you know, I loveChris Tensworth for his body, but I think I love you grant for hispersonality, at least as portrayed in film. You know the character, you Knorithe character. He he plays the kind of noofy British. He is good and most mostmovies. I watch him ind. I think he' yeah, very likeable yeah two weeksnotice was fantastic. I mean Sandra Bullock is great. I love Sandabu IC.She was. She was fantasic that movie so so two weeks nose was great and I justwatched Katon Leopold, which is great and Notting Hill was Hilaroi HilasGreat. That was, that was a lot of other good soundtraction yeah. It was funny so notdinghaland and CAleapol as panning to Wasch Thoday, and I, U Starte a little lader that Iwanted to so ictually watch them on the faster speed in the VLC players.Sometin, like T it was fine. There were a couple of lines of dialogue that weredelivered really. There are a couple of especially in Notting Hill when he'swith his family and they're, just like rapid fire shooting up dialogue. Thereare a couple. Things was like. I didn't quite catch that, but I thought thatyeah that one was really fun. They got away with multiple efforts, Gin, a PGthirty movie, which was interesting and say one of them was Oneo. One of themwas, I thought the roal was that you can only have one. One of them waswritten so like at the very beginning, F movie, he's telling hi his histerrible, Welsh roommate he's so funny. He's pretty funny he's like trying onall these shirts and they're terrible, like don't wear that thick dowt, whereThatualy e finally says one like I'm lucky to be the most beautiful girl inthe world and he's like great and then he turns Roun to walk buck in thestairs. The back or Shic says fancy and then- and then, although explainsat all and then when his sister meets Andy Scott. He says something like HolyF or something like that. So so they got away technically speaking, they gota wey with two and I did check the box. I was like wait a minute. I checkd theback multitle times I pg thirteen, hey leapol was just adorable yeah that that that is what I've notseen. I have seen two weeks noticed, but it's that was actually that one andyou've got mail where the first two movies we watched on the inaugral girlmovie night, like three or four years ago, fice ice,yeah, so yeah so so you've got mal was great, so, okay, so you've got male andwhen Harrymint sithere, both great movies- and I had the same problem withboth of them, which was not an it, didn't affect my enjoyment of the movie,but I'm watching you've got mail and that Tom Hanks is married in it. I'mlike, why is Wootdie in this movie and the same thing with when Harryitsauas like Mik Wazalsk, is really angry. This is the problem when you voice ackand you act as yourself. I only hear that character that you played, I'msorry, Pety, funnytom hanks has been in somany movies. Yeah, I know I I think whate ever yes, that's what I'm tellingyou every time: COM Pankis in Ta Moviin like and what D he was stuck on, thatbeach for Wellt Suckin, an island for a long time, really crazy. It's a box, you arehe to Hilson, H, yeah! That isnot not a thing I did, but it took. It took me a second ass like why do I knowbilly crystel's voice. I know he's miracle Max like marly Max and he'sMichaelzosky. Yeah is likgreek whathat'one of my favorite lines andThats Ju. He Ces Jac he's just like pacing you on the house coming up withthe escape plans, he's like jint catapult too obvious tunnel with spoons.Take too long San wouldn't horse too Greek, no ar that's great movie, that is Awsom thefirst monsters incis and Oh, you were just ohand trick. I know we differ onesAtboth, the ISTARMEN. Those are two good wold ones, wove reference alreadyer excellent yeah yeah. Would you say that Shrek is a wrong come no! We weI've kind of like Takan animated movies out of this, but oh also on jeopardy. Today theyreference th swone Princess, Oh yeah, th, and I couldn't get the answerbecause my brain was saying the answer was o dead and my Brin was just sayingwhat else is Thatnowai. I haveven the frog was croking O it when John Ove ityeah. I Love Shan. What else is there? So that's what that's from I've stillnever seen the go. We have to Seez this...

...movie. It's awesome, the second, not asawesome bathing on just wanted to there's one more rom come. I wanted tomention because it was, I think, unique in all the ROM comes. I watched thatwas city lights with Charlie Chacklin yeah. So I was like I just went all theway back: one TUSAND, nine hunered ND thirty one. Apparently it was like Britain directed by CharlieChapl, an he mosts, the music for it, and because the jazz siner came onethousand nine hundre wenty seven, and that was the first film with sound orwith with Diot spoking dialogue, and he made the decision after mostmovies had a been like. Oh, we can do voices now, they're, not they're, nolonger they're. Talkies. Now, no longer sinn films, we can, you know, nobody'smaking signef films anymore in charge. Chapan chose to do this as a Simen, andso it's about Charlie Chaplin, who is a tramp us like a this homeless guy whofalls in love with this blind flower feller and the friends this millionaire,who it's really drunk and his friends with him, but ever wone evor, he sayssoberszup, he does't, Remember H, Challe Jab one is so it's like themgoing back and forth, and there's one brilliancy: it's like Aff loony tunescartoon Ecau, it's Charlie Chaplins, it's like bunch of slapsticking, sillystuff happening and Havf like really Hardfelt, really endering club story.But there was this one scene where I'm looking at this and like this is. Thisis like the archetype of Woni to he's at. He goes to have this boxing matchto win some money as she, because her rent is doand. She can't pay, thoughit's like boxing the sky and it's just it's exactly what you would think wouldhappen. Bugs Bunny got into the rink the fucks Wenhe ready, like he's, hestaying behind the Rafikee, pushing swapping place with the RAFF andringing the bell and he's not supposed to, and Oh my gosh it it goes on forlike five minutes n ytherical it was, it was a really funy movie. It wasdefinitely I was definitely the most unique movie. I watched if all the runso with that said, let's talk about our favorite romcom and why and I'll startsince I know what it is, it's the princess bride, one of my favoritemovies of all time. I think it's just it is a perfect M. I can't think ofanything I dislike Aby thebecaus. I would. I would want them to dodifferent, the framing the way he trained the old, the old guy, readingthe book to the kid and the ways doesn't ta. You know just everythingabout it. All the acting is perfect. Whili Shan, apparently was you know,nervous about the role because he ches, like I can't do an he talian accent andas it the directed my prob riner. Yes, yes, brob right, yeah, Rihtsir and robbrider was just like. No. Your Voice is perfect. Your perfect Jus, as some ofmy favorite scenes, you know not a day, goes by where I don't put somethingfrom Bak. You can Husen a for. I donnot think I miss what you're thinking is tat that's hone. I might go tois like I say that all the time cut, stee, Oemand just I that movie is perfect and I think it's a great romantic movie,because it's not just oh, they meet an. Theyfall in love. It's like they had this relationship where they were togetherfor a long time and and he figures out that he he's totally into her and she'sstilly into him, and then they get separated. So it's about them them.Finally, getting back together, I'm speaking of the Princess Cride D. doyou know that quippy, which is dead, Rip Wiby? They did TA Princes Pridething, Yeah Yeah, O for charity, like they got a bunch of different ACTER Tut,they record at home. They posted he ething on Youtube Ye h, oh, did theyokay cool? I woill go watch, it is exciting, but that's that is myfavorite rom pom. I just think it's a perfect movie and it's infinitelyquotable and it's just everyone likes them eve. If they don't think they doeveryone likes that. That's that's my vote. I haven't gotten a whole lot ofbad feedback from princl yeah. I think the only thin that you'll ever get isthat it was quote unquote over Hypersbu. That's because that's because anytimepeople talk of a movie, you always feel underwhelme. When you want people talkit up to, but it's a fantastic. The the only person I've ever heard say theydon't like that movie is my mother, but my my Qathers Shwell he joking. She just doesn't really like. I don't know she doesn't love,absurdist, humor or anything like that, and I don't think she understood thatit was supposed to be like a comedy or whatever I was like mom. This ishilarious. Why don't you like this and she's? Like he's just dumb, I'm like O,it's brilliant! It's well constructed it's not a dumb comedy yeah. I don'tknow my parents and I have grossly different paces in film. That's a shame. What is your favoriteBrom Comin? Why an you had B one I mean like off the top ofyour head. You haveto overthink it just pick one that you really realize. Maybe not favorable oneof your favorites. Well, real me! This would you all- and this may be harderfor you guys to do, because no because neither of you have seen this moviewell, no Greag! I think you said you saw josing. The puszy casts. Would thatbe considered a rob Com or is that more calm I mean? Is it sent? Isn't? Is Theisy central pot element the romance, or is it just not just a major one, butit's like esentrar right. I think you...

...could consider the romcom yeah. I thinkhe culd a so maybe more calm than Rom, but yeah. If S. If it's like a majorpot point that drives a lot of what happens, I think absolutely you canconsider wrongco yeah yeah I mean it was it's definitely like a really salid bplot, like kind of like in anepisode of Star Trek. You've got the Aplot n the bplot this it's kind ofthat same principle. Otherwise I think I would I'm gonna have to say: You'vegot mail because Wat's a movie yeah, I I covered it in my way back Wednesdaycall them on Fan Giish back in November, and I ended up watching it like three orfour times, just not only just for my column, but it's like, I legitimatelyreally enjoyed watching it. It was it's you knowit's funny. I love the the score for the film isjust it's just got a little bit of whimsy to it. Neck Ryan is really funny in that movie.Yeah Tom Hanks is funny too, but like she's, like aspecially funny in thatone, I really enjoyed her in that. So Yeah you've got mal there, Shu Nol.Also in that movie also great yeah. I know I didn't realize that until I started watching again for my colls,like wait, dayshapell was in this and I just I totally missed it the first timeI watched it because I know his name and I know his comedy, but I neverreally like watched anything we and hi've only like heard audio snippets.So I had no idea what he actually looked luny. So so you got mail. I really love it. It wasso I came off of den things I hate about you, which Ididn't think I hate it. I didn't hate it. I probably wouldn't go back andrewatch. I thought I had good things. I thought it had some it was just like itwas painful. It was almost physically painful for me to watch it shest, soSacarin and so anxty, I'm not a huge fan of anctean drama in any form, butthat was that that one was built on the back of Pankstepin drama. I love theDad the dad was like. I was feeling the Dad. That was just everything he said I was just. Iwas just mood: Yes, a hundred percent. He Wa. He was great. We Tok about a movie later, that you'vegot Meil. Here's here, a couple, thingsthat bother me and you got mailand other than the woody thing. First of all that AOL booted up away too fast, I I like anyone who had to use all itdoesn't not take five seconds. It takes five minutes with a good connection ythey had to edit for time. I know Iknow, but mon was to hear all the robots getting bur us what thedirectors cut, where you just sitting there and just Nan and he' Tae Hey.Should it when he kept walking back and forth in the hall like whether youShoud Getem Yeu, that should have been the time where it was locking on what was the other thing? Yes did shewas jobless at the end of that movie still right right and he was kicked upso like yeah. They got together, but also they have nothing like she' gonnamove out of eor like what's she gonna do now like the bad guys kind of won inthat movieg Lik. Yes, come hank some Mingr and got together but think aboutthe bad guys, one an new now that I've said that I'm not sure hang on I'mgoing to go look yeah because I don't remember her like. I remember hertalking about writing a book, but I don't remember because that was withtot hanks's evil girlfriend, and so I don't remember, but Oh and here's theother thing. The whole premise of that movie is like Im, hangs on Mayryan arhaving e trit which because because it starts with both of them with theirboyfriends left girlfriend in the room with them. But I was assuming that washer husband, though it got slightly less bad because at least he's notbreaking her maritale bow te e Guy t s still kind of like feely girl, reallyalso that that guy was the worst Maygrian's boyfriend in that Tats, theworst you seen you got mal I haven't seen you got maile since I was a littlekid, and so I feel, like you guys, say things in I'm Mike O. You know that,but I have nothing to add, except for what you've already said, because mymind can't star forther than that, but to seue into my favorite romcom. So Ithought about this a lot because I knew wewere going to do Romti We'ere tryingto do this like three weeks ago. Yes kept yeah getting hunted, so I don't know if I have a favorite andalso there're a lot that are kind of right on the edge he's O. like anight's tail, I don' wouldn't consider it ROM com, that's SOM, gledgure, right,yeah, I've been told. I need to watch that movie. I know yeah that was me,has been telling you, no not just you. Other people whove also been like EahYoue. You would love the crap out of Tha I'm down. I think it's more of amedieval comedy and there just happens to be like it's more about his destinybecoming a night about there's also of yeah, but I would have to say five hundreddays this summer you seen that I've seen that one, mygosh, but again I was- I was like looking back through it. Like lookingat the list, I was like I've seen more of these than I thought I had. We needto watch five hundred days of summer, and now I like don't want to spoil anything, but they overall, likePremii, mean it's Zoedationel and...

I can't remember Josen Bord Levin. Soit's already just two people yeah. It's already two people that you're justlike they're adorable, like they're so great, like as actors and Awhat Year,was that you know I can like it was two thousand and ten two thousand andeleven Mak okay, because thank Oy ten things I had about. You was also jussupport, elevent, but like baby, you remember him for majors in the outfieldand Oh my goo. That was JWAS. Yes, if there is a god, maybe you coan make himwin a little crying and I'm Myke God that that trailer is one of thegreatest trailers and I Hov the Angli Maic wreven yeah and then it just gotridiculous is like I have a friend who's from sinceatti ther. I Ih see himI'mcome to just O Bactis Ang out but yeah. Well now I don't want to say aton about five hundred as summer, but it's not your typical romantic comedy.It definitely has enough serious elements for you to like enjoy like thedeep thought of the movie. While the comedy is just it's Hilarious, it'sreally good and it's filmed in a really interesting way to where you're goingthrough, essentially he's dating this girl summer fin an Datzer for fivehundred days, frecamping those five hundred days unto each each like sceneor new day like has a new number at the top, and that's like that's like thelength of time they were together. So you know, and then she dies. No, I'mnot going to tell you the end, but like then she marries the president of theUnited States. Obama enters the movie and he's like Gos me. Take ar girl Ishe, seen that this take a great tistr,stel Girl Gift for to tht, it's an old, it's like a flack and white, so it wasRi. I think it was from like a buster, Keatin film or something wherethere'slike a couple walking down the street, and then a car comes ou with this likeseat on it like bucket seat on a pole and just scoops her up and drive o Wikwithher. Let me tell you itill your girlyouror. 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...nathaniel, you ask the question: DoesMagrian's character have a job at the end of hes got mail, and so, while yes,her store, does close and it's not like she reopens a new store, whatever thethe closure of the store actually pushes her to do what she really wantsto do. An SES, Cili, chiln right, children's books, righteert mentioningthat, but that was with that was like a deal with Tom Hanks's terrible X. Iwasn't sure whether that ACA W so so in the in the film this is this is again.This is this part of the story is told visually because you see her writingworking on writing. It's not it's referenced a bit like when she meets up later with Tom Hanks.She talks to him about like how you know if the store hadnenclosed like Inever would have really started doing this right and pursuing this, and I'mreally glad that I am pursuing this, and but that's really all that saidabout it, you don't get like and she became a famous children's book authoror whatever at the end. What is his redfish, dofish ATS trash? Get it at it? You know it's not like at the end of LF,where you know buddy becomess, the fanous children's author, you know, but it is, it is referenced and thathow that Pushinph, I somthing, then the other problem I had with the movie,which maybe should be me being pruded, was they were totally tristing in thebeginning right that was, they were yeah Lik Wa was a little bitof and it'. It was worse than I thought itwas because at first I thought they were both married, so righ, lately better, but stilllittle scazy wat yeah. What n? I think it illustrates, I think, that's areally early example of it. You know emotional infidelity is stillinfidelity yeah Ye. So I mean, I think, that's a kind of aninteresting thing, but, as you can see there, the people they were with weredrifting away as well right it right. It wasn't like. Oh I'm breaking up withyou, because I'm in love with online guy right right that happened beforethey met, or that was happening yeah. So I kno Imean it was fine, but at the same time infidelity. That's not the jet Iwae all right, so I don't feel like that'san unfair criticism. Yeah yeah still still loved it because it' still greatmovie. It was interesting because you know a lot of these are very dialoguedriven, but when Harry Mitsally was like a pure dialogue, Hich yea, whichwas interesting- and I really enjoyed it- and it was also- It was also verymuch like like they said it was a twelve year think before they evenbefore they even like considered it. So so I enjoyed one hearing, it sallyquite a bit, but let's, let's be one to the next one, the opposite end of thespectrum. What's your least favorite Rom Common? Why? If you can think of it, I'm hard for SD to find one that I waslike actively dislike. I do, I remember not liking the forty yearold bird. Inever saw that one. It had some funny moments, but you now the overollmessage. I thought was not good and caus really crass and I I just didn'tenjoy it just didn't, enjoy it of the ones I watched in preparation for this.I think tenten things I hate about. You was the weakest, but again I don'tthink it was a terrible movie. I had a I had some issue. Ut. Okay, here wasone of the biggest issues I had and I realize o Nie, Ene n Ne Thousand Ninehundred and ninety nine baby jgl was adorable s that can't be denied, but hedoes like absolutely nothing to Muviaka, like he tutors her in French, but he hesees her ans like that's it, I'm in love with this girl. I realize it'slike Agayn. I don't want to put on Clichese because we're getting to thatpoint, but that was I was like you literally know nothing about her. Hisfriend was hilarious. I loved his friend, I don't know the name of hisfriend. They said it like once in the beginning and they didn't save thewhole movie and then, when he goes to date, viakas when he wat's theShakespeare dress in Bianka's friends blocker, he signs it. He signs his note,William S, so I have absolutely no idea what his friend's name was to me. LikeI love this guy. What is his name? He looks like a joy. He looks like a joylike Ey guy is Joye like he grew up n. He looks like he grew up to be in thespase, so his friend is actually the guy whoplayed Bernard an Elf yea, the guy from numbers yeah. I characters name in tentigs I hitabout. You actually have Tanolep Oin, O the Internet, David Crumpols, no AndrewKegins. Yes, yes, David Crumhouse, yeah! Oh, I was Goin to say he was a joey. No,he was his name was Michael Okay, so he had a generic white name, easy for meto reget but yeah at so that one of the biggest things I had an issue was thescene where he's ledgers in detention and Katerina's, helping him sneak out and then just straight upflashes. The teacher a like you know how much trouble that teacher could getin in no throug no fault of his own.

Like that's Probabl, now imitally shewas eighteen, okay, so she's, eighteen in the movie. That was still I wasstill like, Yeah Haha funny. But this is that that there's so many thingsthat are problem tat in Thatninety, nine thes still like there'se, so manythings that are problematic. With that. I was like that's probably not okayyeah, but overall I thought it was. It was again there were. There weremoments where the that teen anks was dragging on I'm literally pushing myhead, I'm physically pushing my head into my pillow UST, trying to get awayfrom it which didn't work. I because I had wireless headphones in, so I'm justlike the sounds. Not Getting? U Dan't get away from it. There were definitelymoments where I was like. I went to fest forward this, but yeah four yeaoldvirgion. I remember not enjoying yea. I can't think of off the top of my head.I can't think about the rum comes, but I think in general, ROM comes arefairly. It's fairly easy to make a watchable on yeah and ther'. There's such like Dert of them Yeah Fer, ee Jasion, wasthe last one. I remember recent emor in that was a great that's, a great film.That's like a Rom Colm that a lot of guys really enjoy as well. Fi Yeah likethey just I mean because I mean tell lente again, you say guys. I want toemphasize that all the rum com, DVDs- we have are my dads yeah, no and that's fair. Well, I meanthat in the sense that guys, I know that do not necessarily enjoy wrongcoms or will tolerate them, because the ladies in their life enjoy them, strapthem to the Celphone, that wit, so what Strap Them Down to the Sofa right, crazy riciations is one that they allreally enjoyed and- and this is something else that we might want totouch on as I've been watching more wrongcoms inthe past few years partially because of girl movie night partually, because of me tryng to broaden my horizon, findgood fodder for my my wayback Wednesday Colum, and youfinally did demlition man. I did well dude. I cannot write about that moviethat it was a train rink, why it's so good! It's such a good! It's such abeautiful train reck. I will have nothing nice to say about that. Moviereally am like this is like. I love like agood stupid, like action movie, just to watch things blow up, but even that onewas like wow. why O come on the Topo Bellsee, I'm just like Sandra Bullock, must haveneeded a check that shes so go. Oh, my God. I can't believe it. I can'tbelieve that, like no, it's like I was like Oh sincer, Bul locause in this. Iwould have watched this like months ago. F, Tangas Tol me send I thin. I Dude,and I missed that part. I'm sorry. All I remembered was no. I haven't seendemolition man, but then we watched it because it was like going hbomax andthat was like what is wrong with this. No anyway. What was I talking about? Ohsomething. I noticed that a lot of wrongcoms are actually directed by men,HMM, which I thought was, was really interesting, because they're typicallyconsidered like movies for women, a lot of them, likeexception being like Nora, Efron who's. You know done like some of the big oneslike well. She wrote when Harry met, Sally Ri, roundor directed that one butyou've got male. Is Hers Some? I know she's done other ones, but those arethe main ones I've seen yeah nor Efron was in Al. If she wasn't directing it,she was producing it on a lot of them as well right right. She she definitelyheld a lot of influence in the genre she passed. I think in two thosand, antwelve, but yes, she yeah. She was definitely very much amainstay of the genre for many years. Yeah H, so here I'm actually have IMDBopen to the romance list at Romans I romates intersecting with comedy andhere's where I would discreet legally blond. It has as a Rome Rom Con, whichI would agree, it's focused on the romance forinitially between L and whats, his, but and then between L andLuke Wilson, but miscongeniality is primarily about the per going underCovera to prevent a bombing the romance happens, but it's not the primary plotelement but ar in his conginiality is not a ROM com, and I would argue that Ithink it is. You know I think it's fine to have someyeah wickle room there, but I would argue mice. geniality is an action comedy that has a romance,whereas legally bond is a romantic comedy again. There's it's a fuzzy line.It's not right, it's not sharp distinctions so wat. What whatd? Yousay. You least favorite was gosh. You know, honestly. I don't know that I'veever really seen onethat. I just absolutely hated ut that you were like.I probably would'T, go back and watch that fine tolso one. It's not like. Idon't despise this movie at all. It's just. I know it's a classic, and but again maybe this isn't a rum com.Maybe it's just a comedy but meet meet...

...the parents never seen it never seen itAshley. I I've seen bits and pieces of it. So I from what I know about it. Ithink it's build mostlyly as a comedy, but I could see why you would yeah. You know that you're saying that andnow that I actually said it at loud actually do think it's pretty much justa comedy. I mean he's already he's already like dating the girl and it'sabout him meeting her parents and it's just it's just agonizing. It's a it's. What's his name, the bigintimidating Mafia guy. Is The girls dad what HEAC on colio that he he's like the Big Italian guy? It'salways what's that, what's it called het the parents gosh? Why is it? Whycan I lik Oberde neer revenue now? Is the Girls Dad and pen stiller is likeyou know the unsure? You know boyfriend anyway,hit's just it's just so uncomfortable like to the point where it's like thisisn't even very like I like the office, the office is a lot of uncomfortablehumor. That's very just like I hate I. I know you don't like the office, butthis was like I culdn't Ev ta out there. It's just because I was like there'snot even a payoff, it's just and of agonizing, but again yeahits, probablynot much a bouter Romanace Anomina, it's funny, because I hate the officefor the Awkward Comedy, which I realize a very bittish thing, but I enjoyed theit crowd. So I don't know Isee Crory myte crowd. I don't know the the mostof the T. Crad that made me laugh were more than the moments that I would Imean I would. I would actually fastforward to parts of the at crowdslike skip ahead when it was getting too pawsy and awkward. So I think I realized Sorr. This is anaside, but I think I realized earlier. I identified David Crumholes as Bernardfrom Elf. That is not correctys Bernard from the Santa Claus, but we get yeah. We all we I was onBoardheard Thave, see movies, that's the one where the Santa Clausis teMallan Yeah Tomalon has e Sana causyeah he's like hey, Berabis, Hey! Bon of US keeps calling him he'slike it's Fernard every time, yeah worlds. Only Jewish Elf. Can you thinkof list favorite? Actually, if you can't that's fine like if you just likein general, I enjoy them. Yeah, like I think, just in general, I've een Ienjoy them. I again I'm a little bit on the newer side to the genre, I'm goingto say, like I think, I'm going to have a type that I don't enjoy as much and Ithink those are probably going to land somewhere and like the hallmark movieterritory. To this day, I have never watched likeone of the eight fulfillion hallmark Christmas movies that come out that allhave the same plot and yet people still watch every single one of them and saythey're all the best thing ever. I think if I watch those it would bebecause I have friends that want to watch them and I am an extraber and Ineed to hang out with wifor th communal aspect and I mightenjoy it in the moment, but they're probably not GOINGNA, be ones that Irevisit, because I think, if I'm going to watch, if I'm going to watch anymovie, it needs to have unless I'm watching it simply just to mock it,like I would demolition, man or Sana cause, conquers, the Martians orwhatever. If boy don't listen, men, sorry, man! Sorry! It's just not mything like! No! I get it. I haven't. I have a stupidity line and it crossed itlike every other scene. So I seen that reg Tebishman a long timeago, like I know the scenes and like Greg kd it out, it was horrifying. I I feel, I think, I'm the I'm Aze. Ithink I'm the only person who enjoys watching that movie, but I love it. It's fine. We all have movies like that, but I think I think to answer thequestion. Hi Aniuel, I I think like for me to not enjoy the WRONGCOM IT needs to. Thestory, needs to actually go somewhere and to have some sort of emotionalgravitoss other than hey. Let's get together HM and- and I think th, the WROMP colmsthat I enjoy the most have something of more substance than hey: we've got tofigure out how to get together like you've got mail. It was also aboutpursuing your dreams and figuring out what you really want out of life whenHarry met Sally like I, I avoided Harry Mett Sally like theplay for a really long time, because the main thing I knew about it was theLine Min and women can't be friends because sex always gets them away, andI was like that's stupid. I have always had like male friends that I lovedearly that I you know love as brothers and well we'll talk about that in thetrips and Clesiun Yeah Tha y. that's like a whole other thing like, but butthe the cruks of that film was not that men and women can't be friends. It wasthat to have a solid relationship. You have to havethat underlying friendship and care for one another that is completely outsideof you K, Ow, the physical real. So I...

...thought that that made it more poinant.Something like the princess bride is really interesting, because not only isit AU rom combut, it's also an action movie. It's it's a fantasy film. It hit so manydifferent genres that there's there's lots of ways. You can interpret thatmovie and there's lots of substance to it. For me, the ones I'm going to enjoythe most are going to have to have that something extra. That's not just theheares how we got together if it doesn't have that I'm probably notgoing to appreciate it as much fair enough. Can you think of a movie thatfeells, like criteria? Also? Are you seeing this thing on my screen? Doesthis sentence make sense, Vannilla re, lesbian, roncom, Ebian, Oi'exu, Vanilla in the sense of the yeah like nothing too exciting. Itmeans tere's, just a bunch of white people in it Te Vanilla, that's what ithought I have been allotlike white, okay, yeah, not unreasonable. So, let's,let's, let's gravitate you looking at some actual numbers now this may moveinto into the realm of. We Not Watch these movess again. Thisis a massive massive categoran. You can only watch so much but o you thinkthere are some that are considered stars of the Genre Bot. I'm going NApull up the domestic box office anm where to look at the top ten and see itso so, and now I do think box office is not a great indicator of the quality ofa movie at all as evidence by transformers making billions of dollars. But so so here are the top ten domesticbox office number one is my big Frat Greek wedding, bye you seen it I've seen pieces of it. I don't knowthat I'ves, I have not seen it Graganin, oh brilliance, it's mean it's Hilarious, it seem seemslike a movie. You'd, probably love. I mean it's very. It almost made my listMo watch this week. I spanan most everyone. I know who is in any wayGreek is like that movie is so accurate.That's what family gatherings are like. We all have an uncle like so, and so weall have an aunt like so and so our par you know our aunts, a grandparents areall like this and so from what I hear it's incredibly accurate and thatbuilds on it for me, because it is really ridiculous. Like you watch itand you're like Yeathis is this is Hix Teir, family, stuff yeah? That's I kindof want to you know get into it because you know Thik, family scmadigans arealways fun to me right. That's why I think, when I watched I'm like Youd,probably love it because Ik all like the funny uncles and the funny peopleare just like it's about a guy who's. You know going to marry this girl who'svery Greek and, like sor familyis like okay, he needs to be like indoctrinatedin some. You know so he starts going to all these big family things he startslike he goes to the Greek Orthodox Church and has to get like oil rubbedon Al T. AL over his body and Thi is seen where shes sitting there a she'slike I'm not worth this just getting like rubbed down by all these weird.Like I don't know, I feel like nuns or something I don't know how the GreatBor thet ox ter coice, but it was really funny yeah number two. Whatwomen want, which EFOR is good, haven't gone around watch it that's lone, wherethe guy can hear. When I it's what's his name now gap Simson, Idn't only remember they did a follow up. What men want what I on't, I did seewhat men want. I was that Ecaus, I'm like if you, if you're looking intomen's brains, all you're getting years, boobs buts but like Anyou Dona, butwhat men want was very was much more recent yeah. It was like that was thatwas like last year and I it it was pretty fun. It was enjoyable. I likeTiffany Hattish, I think she's Hilarious, so I enjoyed it on that level. It didhave a little bit o Hart to it there at the end, so I watched it. I curiousAmazon prime. I watched it and I kind of gosed off somewhere in the middle,but I don't feel like I missed anything, but I'm curious if this, what womanwant was directed by a man or a woman, verycurious, so I'll, look at yeah, so number three,pretty women never seen I one thousand nine hundred and ninety for mine. I sawthat when I was much too young because that's on about the prostitute, yes,Julia Rogerts is a prostrtute and Richard Ger picks her up and she sorry, but it is that a comedydoesn't sound. Like a comedy. I personally, I wouldn't have thought itwas a comedy. I mean I was much too young to have watchedthat MEO be like ast. No, so so, for a few years on Christmas night, my sister and Iwould stay over my aunt uncle's house and my cousins, my cousin Jenna and Iwould always watch a movie and it would always be some random movie that shepulled off her parents, like vidy shelf that we weren't supposed to watch, or maybe we shouldn't have watched inso a pretty woman was the first one in that series of Christmas movies that weshouldn't have watched the next one was psycho and Tho one after that wasrevenge of the nervts...

...anyway, but no, I don't I and that'sthat's the only time. I've seen it so I would. I would think that I wouldn't have gaged it as a comedy. Ido know that's one of those where they changed the ending after test audienceshm beguess, the ending it turned out. It was London and she got Jack Theriver. No, so the spoilers not going to go, watch him yeah, so so spoiler alertfor those listening who may want to watch pretty woman, but the originalending Richard Gearfor, basically attract Sipolis an dies. No, he dropsher off and leaves that's it. Basically, the problem is that he, the crux of the film, is that he fallsin love with her right he's like can't follow over the prostitute right.That's that's bad! That will not work out well for you, but audiencs hated that ending so much likeno he's in love with her. He can't leave her. They change the ending, sothey they're together hm at the end that so Dave Chepell antrepel show fora while head that he had recurring sketch of if movies had movies, ferrealistic. So the Matrix is the OPPO scenehe's like running through and it'sjust a comes it's just the guy was like hey. Can I ba your Stablei wasjuspessed with you a right, so I did pretty woman. It's like right. After the first time tthey sleep together and they're in the bed and she's, giving that whole Spielt a that' beech thing right and she finishes Watis like you need to get theFUCO terrible Kay number four. That was basically theoriginal Enis right right right. That's why that's why I wroght it. I was likewait t at that was basically what happened for hitch which would hit Aott exellent. I have I have what's the right. I have a deeplypersonal connection with hitch, but that's we'll say that for later, if wedon'that will Smith O do more comedies man, he sa Good Odays, he's hilariousgreat. When he's right, there's something about Mary number, five, notseeing it I'm familiar with one scene. I get that one mix up with long camepolly. Something about Mary is what was in it. I don't know, but it I'mfamiliar with there's a famous scene in it, which is nasty, and I will describe ifyou guys want me to. I think I haven't seen it, but I thinkI know what seenyor reference Tinkin and then the main reason I know aboutit is because Keith David is in that movie and he's the boys of Galiath onGargols, but he plays Mary's Dad. But something about Mary is.Is that the one with it's? Let's see, I'm Lostin is Mi Ben Stolarly, Evans, Os Eliotts,Okay Ben Stiller, so so something I' m about Mary is the one where he has likeIndian food and he's like he goes to her house. Have'. Wash it CALN. Tellyou, no, that's not the one. You think about thumb and dumber that Hell Er. Ihate it. You like demman dollar iay, we'RE gonna, WE'RE gonna. We are goingto have an episode W ere. We talk about trashy movies, that we love yeah. Ohemilution, Manis, one of mine, but demilition. I his SOMON do but DullaDumer is not on the same categories I deloton man, Dumbin dumber is not.GNNAM is not considered a classic on any like I, that is just either'sdemolition man. No, it's nom, Adoer, CISINDER, classic its up bad Noo,dumband dumber, is is definitely considered to be like a classicalcope,terrible taste. It's a that's. It is true. It's Trai as nothing we cand dois like dimen, listen, Fan mosies that are considered classics that we hate.That's not it like t e movies that are very highly highly regarded that weyeah regarded movies. Let's look at: Let's look at then do over, but there'ssomething about Mary there's, a scene where, like the one of the maincharacter, is like getting ready to go out and its friend tells me you need tomassibate first so you're not like super horning, and so he does that andsomehow it gets on his ear and she comes in is like O, hair, Jelland rubs in your hair, yeah Thathao this movie and I was like I don't wantto watch that that that's really aten disgusting, I was not Thi mcene I wasreferring Y. Would I want to watch that Isai feel like that's pretty intenseeen,for our rated movies to actually like have semen and in some way like en?That's like it's gone up to another level of intensity that at yeah parrats.That would make me uncome anyways! That's why they that one's more, I feellike that's more like Raunchy comedy than Ron Personally, just based on whatI know of the film. But again you know have not seen it seven point: three outof ten people. Re Stop Em an doealn number, six, crazy, rich Asians, whichfantastic movie I loved it. I love that you. I love the idea of there's,there's both class shock and culture shock, even though it's not like youknow. shes he's like this should go well right because you know I shouldget aese culture pheese right, but there's like it's like it's morenumerous, it's not just which a lot of people think about a lot of otherothercultures is: Oh, you know you have Spanish culture, you have Frenchculture and you have Chinese culture...

...and is like no cultures are notmonolists, but right I go up to Minnesota and there's stuff they dothere and I'm like the hell. Are you guys doing? I have ai sayd because Ihave cousins in Minnesota. You call things the wrong logup, but it's thewrong, not the hot. It's soda come on guys. Where are your Goin, but a cupdyou want Pepsi, Yeah Yeah, that's where it's its that sort of thing givmea spread. I thought that emphasize both that and the idea of this sort of, likethe old money thing kind of you know, tradition and how how how much is howmuch the tradition play a role in anthing? I love crazy ritrations. Ithought it was great well and- and I think crazy rich Asians, maybe hassomething I can't attest for some of these otherfilms in n. The top town crazy ricasions, is based on a book. Yes, so it's got a little help in thestructure department. Also Oul did you all see the Stinger scene in thecredits the head singe cris. I did not see that okay. So apparently, if you read the book series,the the Big Romance of the series is between cousin, Astrid and another guy.Oh So, a friend of mine who had read the books wic e like Oh, this wasgreat, but if you think this is great, you need to go like read the rest ofthem, because you know astrod is getting set up for this big romance andit's amazing interest myself yeah. So I would that's that's. That's he whate. Ineed to look into further because I really really enjoyed that film. Ithink there were some changes from from the book, but overall I think thatone's got some help with having a good, solid story backbone to rely upon tohelp ma get a great film again, no complaints there, that's a it's a just,a great film overall and a lot of different levels. Yeah number, seven,the proposal. I didn't think that was a comedy and neither was number eightgerm Guoire. That was not a comedy. I Have Noen everybodyis a great movie andit has a lot of funny moments in it. It's not a comedy at the classicmoments but yeah. I have seen the proposal the Osal I've never seen, butI thought that was supposed to be a Romancic comedy Yeah Abe. I run knowwhat in my brain, I think I'm getting confused with the notebook yeah yeah yes notebook is is, I would not consider to be a comedy. It's just a romantndrama, oratic movie, but Eing. The proposal is acting custer right, isn'tit no? It's a Ryan, Reynolds and Sendra bullock. Oh, oh thats, okay oayyeah, Iwas gonna Sayi, think even if it wasn't attended to be Comony, it would somehowbecome a comedy withem. The sticky they're, both Er, both reat, I meanit's,a l, expesica comedy- is fantastic. It's Alo, she's great and there's a lotof physical comedy in that film and they're, both just amazing at it. I'mGointacol I mean it's almost like a holl, Marki type premise. You know,whereas hey you've got a Purcasei O Marky, but it's, but it's done reallyreally fun. Yeah, like I gotta pretend to be my fiance and then they fall inlove, but like it's done really well number nine run away right now. I'lljust note, almost all of these are between ninety and twosand, likethere's two thousand and two two thousand and five O thosand andeighteen is two teny ighteen was crazy with haen two thas and nine was theproposal SOS. It's like the resisance was the s like. A lot ofthese are from early two hsand lates. Why don't we bride? You Watch that one,I'm looking an I'm familiar with the premise, but I don't think I've everactually seen it. I want to conplete runaway bride with father of the bridesbecause yeah, because she also kind of runs away at some point. Number ten knocked up. Yeah knocked upis Seth Rogan, Catherine Higel, Paul Rod,Lesley Man, Jesus Segel, dee, very tall. So what if I stitch over, see that oneif I switch over international, there are two on there that are look flook tobe Chinese films, O may May Renu and she hung she show fool, I'm certain I'mMispaounsin at and apologize for that. But pretty women jumps to number twoworldwide. My big fact Greev voinise three. What one wants still on there issomething about Mary is still there. Hitch is still there. Notting Hill isnow an eighth, because I'm guessing that that did did pretty well in UK ItdYeaset in the UK, and it has I e Hou gramt enchanted made t up there, whichI wanted to which I wanted to watch but was not on any streaming platform forfree and then the proposal is really fun. I'm kind of surprised, that's noton Disney Blass Ohare, you thinking of Ella enchanted.No, I well. No! I was thinking of enchanced, that's the one! Where mcdreamy isn't it right? I don't knowan watch it Ati, but I just want to point out that number twenty three sothe the twenty third most the highest tenty, the twentythird highest,grossing romcom film in America, the Princess Diaries to royal engagement,princes O no e be wrong. PICES Diris one was good, but he did not need asequel, yeah hit's, a taaries to is okay, that'salso one, I believe, that's based on a book Princess Diry to has Denerithdabies as the villain and...

Chris Pine. Isn't it so I mean that'sand the Princess Diaries is one that in my head I get mixed up with the littleprincess, which is also it's a great movie, but very different about thegirl who goes down. I think she's in India and n her dad comes home and hegot muster cast and World Bor win. It's like it was kind of traumatic, all right, so a so that's the top tenby box office, wbut we're Gonn, look at based on IMDB scores and it's a totallyit's totally totally ifferent, and this is actually when I was picking whichones to watch. I was looking through this liss and this MDV scorses or thisis otomato scores, run tomato scores, O so tho number ten is actually city lige.That's what that's! What put me on to that? OHS? It's got a ninetyght percentaround tomatoes, its a great movie. Was It wa, the artist two thousand andeleven I've heard, if very good things about that, and I think that also gotlike a bunch of Academy Awards as well. I have not seen that yeah one thousandnine hundre ND eventy. Seven anty hall, Woodhe Alleen, Dian Keaton and his girl,his girl Friday, I'm assuming this. This is where that prase comes from yeah yeah. I goovieHarry Grant Rusland Russis funny. We got both. He granting a lot of these and carryGrattin a lot of the older ones. So I thidn elated a I don't think so. IGRANC is a COM, I'm Gonnadogi r Ar Grant and George Cooney related withthe heck. That's not what I want here. You are carry Grandon, heuggrantrelated. No, I grand is a pretty common. So so a lotof the ones on that are top on rotten. Tomatoes are older. The Lady OneThousand Nine Hundre N Ety one number five is crazy: Rigasians wow numberfour Roman Holia, one thousand nine Hundre N Nty. Three number threePhiladelphi story which I'm intending to watch Catherine, have Bern. CRANcarry branc Jimmy Stewart, so I am intending to watch that he's on HBMMASS.I do actually want to go watch the number two, the big sick, which wascamial cumail n Johnny- that is a great film yeah, and it's based off hisactual like it's yeah. It's Lo his actual romance yeah yeah, like with howhe started dating his wife Yeah, so that and then the very the number oneis. It happened. One Night Hart Gable, Fadat, Colbert, Altarconala, Jason,Thomas Reckorby, thank frank, capra. Ninety Tho I do want to go. It saysfrank, capper, Semal, screwball comedy I'm Sol. I love Screwbalk, APS yeah,Thou H, and that was another one where I looked for it and I could not find itstreaming anyway, so I'm going no have to Negoit, but so a lot of those top ones,Araround, tomatoes or much older. So if I scrolle Down Oo, the shopthat was based on a Frenchplay called the Perfumery, which is what you've got man Gomii was going tosay because it was called the little shover in the corner ther just I justknows that that Ad Jimmy Doart in it- yes, yes, H, that's why they named thethe book store the shop around the corn, yeah number fifteen princess brideBrown Hog Day number, nineteen that was a fun movie. All though nodaysyeahthat's e, that's the thing! So the IMTV is a little. The ront tomatoes is alittle more loose. I would agree, I don't think that's he wrong com. Iwatched anyways because it was on this list and I enjoyed it st time I everWan Seen Goo Hadn gdut eait was not primarily about that Roman was a minhoman. He killed himself a lot that was pretty brutal, broadcast news. I'veheard great things about, didn't, find it, but it's lakor kitting COKA. That was to me that was hilarious, so yeah. Soyou know. How would you? How do you feel about the box office versus theRon Tomatoes? Is that agree, disagreed therere? Some of youthink, should be Iti. It's up there it's hard, also just because I'mhearing half of these and definitely like, I would have never thought thatthat the one you just made Brownhonk Day was it wron common, a million yearsyeah, but also when it gets that broad. You really have trouble how to judge it,because you're like well Brown Ho Day is, I would bet up there with some ofthe best comedies I've ever watched, certainly because I'm a huge BillaraFan- and I think almost all of my top five ten comedies are like primarilyall builder movie right. However, I wouldn't have even considered it for awrong come. So it's really hard for me to look at that list and say: Oh thereshould be these on there, because if I'm thinking about it in that spectrum,I just want to name every bill. Murry movie inso these are the best, but inright and and then they're also really good romantic movies and I wouldn'tthink would make the comedy cut and, like I think, the notebooks a greatmovie, but I don't think it's a comedy by any means. So I think I'm havingmore trouble just finding out. It sounds like more of these are more onthe comedy side and it's more l lax on the upon the romantic site. It's morelike these are comedies at there's, Inian of Romance Yeah Mit, all thefollow. Then it's- and in that case I would put you know, I would think aboutit in more comedy terms: Yeah Gan, I we would other buildern movies, like theman who to littles one of my favorite movies ever and that's not about thatroom right. It's really not about the romance, but it's not bout. The RomansAme more than Frownhong Day is right, so I would agree with you. I wouldn'trea, even like ghostbusters, with him,...

...trying to Romat Sagorni Lever, yeah rsoyeah, so that that's where I would draw the line. That's why I say for me forto be a ROM con, the Romantend to be like a driving hot right. I thinkthat's a good measuring sting. So when I hear those of those box office ones,I think I just have trouble yeah theyre thinki makes it. I think the casting tobrought it that yeah, I mean es Wat Isii want to bring in you know mynumber one pick. I think that five erays a summer deserves a higher spoton a Ron Coyeh its just ECAS. Now it was really well Don. I will say bothnot both the Kenneth Brannaw, much Odo and the just weedin munch o do on thistop two hundred Liv and I agree with both of them because they're bothfantastic, the the Canis e Branna, has Henneth Branna Denzi Washington Kianu,like it's star, studded, it's Oh yeah, it's it's a Profelm, it's amazing andthe Jos Weedin. One is also amazing that what I love about the Joss of Etinone is they basically just put the play on in his house, but there's like noset dressing. There's no they're just wearing normal clothes, but they'redoing Tho. Do the entire play start finish with scene changes, but the people and at you do hinges on whoplays benedic and who plays beinterest. They have to both be good, and I haveto both have good chemistry. I think it both of those. So in should in CEN, brandos Waus. The peoplewho play Benedican, beatric or Harry Lik think go five hundre day. Th SumerS number, seventy, three! U Ut, one! Okay, yeah! So so yeah! Some of these, I think I thinkthese these lists are casting a little too prodan, but it is interesting. TheRom com is kind of as old. This film in, though you cou, have examples goingback to in films. I think it's a good a romance is a good pot element to buildaround and have heart a movie with heart and still have it be funny. Ithink it's, I think it's a good parent it s like you know. I think he thing isto feel good things that that go together. Well, though, you knowlaughter and Cluve Thinkig me met well like it's a it's ait's a natural senre work. Let's move on to, I think whos thout, with thisropes and cliches Shog, and I want to talk about both positive ones, becauseI think there are some positive things and obviously there are some negativeones, and obviously these have shifted over the years and we're talking abouta genre that again has existed since, at least since the S and up to today swell- and I would eve knor if you want to get real technical and o want to gothe theater. Like I mean I don't, but but it is funny how many of thebromcoms our addetations of Sou, it's a lot right, and that's that's. That wasmy point like you. You have much to do about nothing. You have tentic to atabout you, which is on the temtamming of the shoew, Oh and Nathaniel. Ithought of an answer. A A wrong com that I don't like is my best friend'swedding. Okay, so you don't like my best friend's wedding. No, I don't andit just because Julia Roberts is selfish and I don't like that. I can'troot for the main character. Okay, like that's supposed tobe the person we'resupposed to root for in, and I can't do that because I think she's beingselfish, yeah, yeah yeah. I find it hard to enjoy movies where the maincharacter is unlikable, I just in general, Tis general right all right.So let's talk about fopes cliches things that are commonly found in Romcoms. I think one of the I'll start with the positive start with thepositive Bu. I think one of the positive ropes in Bromcoms is the Romans I think ingeneral you have a positive botrayal of you can find a lasting romance tat, apartner, that's built on trust, now aitally a lot of these romcoms to havesome point where one of the other partners breaks the others trust in alot of wrong coman. Even if you know sometimes it's misunderstandings but like that happens, a Bot and rum. Butyou know I tinindo yeah, try to Hev it up, yeah yeah, so so B t. But you know,I think I think people can be really cynical about romant and about love,whwho Wov right, but I think a lot of Ron concoms portray a very positivepicture of finding someone, you truly love and pending the rest of your lifewith them. Unless horrible things happen like athat right. No, it's true.I actually think that there is a pretty heavy aspect and most bromcomes becauseas the audience, you obviously know that there is a there is a couple thatis quote, unquote meant to be, and so you know they're going to end uptogether and it's not like real life where finding that is the hard part.WER necessarily know if that Personis you're supposed to be with, and youconstantly don't have that dilemma in these movies. You you already know, andso it's it's honestly, it's got theChristian themes of I'm going to love you you know through the thick andevent, it's not yeah, like most all rong comes, have an element of like acharacter, making a stake, or both characters, making mistakes and both ofthem having to exercise forgiveness in some way, because they're attempting tolove in an unconditional fashion.

That's great. You know like. I thinkthat element is really good. I think, if you were to take the aspects of liketraditional, like Christian love, which is truth in love where you like, likethe idea, is that you c love it, someone with acceptance and like thefeeling, love, but also with truth and like and bringing forth truth and thedesire to to change andbeterate things yeah speaking true thot to each other'slife, and that aspect is usually not there. Usually it's just the feelinglike hey. Well, I know I'm supposed to be und to be with you, because I reallyreally like you and it's like, oh I'm, just following this feeling and so yeahthat parts a little fluffy, but the idea that I let like, I know thatyou're the person I need to be with and therefore I need to sacrifice for youis a pretty cool thimg. I think that you find in a ot of yeah, ROM comesyeah and, and- and you know I think, Ot, even though it doesn't say this in somany words, I think it does touch on the idea of being a higher order oflove than just romantic lobe, because it does like, like an ene, Harryman,Saliy and he's like s saying you know, I love these things and lit's all thesethings that are not positives, but he's like this is who you are, and I loveyou for who you are. Even though these things about you really irritate mebecause I think a lot of times people, especially today, people are like and again I this will be the netiveside of this, which I think you see lesson Rom coms, fo Morand in a lot ofother things, is Oh okay, for, like you got mal ous Yo got mals an exampleright they're in miserable relationships and so they're actuallypursuing something better, because it's like they're looking for right, they'reseeking their best interest in terms of romantic loe. So they're like Oh, if,if I feel more attracted to this other person that I had to cut pat with this,this relationship, or even you know, keep that on. Keep that on the line todo the fish analogy. Until I see whether this is wort while or not so Ithink that's the negative side is they fall into that, whereas you know, Ithink I think the really good Rom coms push on the no. I love you because Ilove you and you know, regardless of how it started or where we've been. Youknow I'm I'm here for the long pall, yeah so actually is actually trying torestore connection. This is why Internet stuff is tricksy. I think oneof the big NAMS I we actually get back to this negative. I think one of thethings is not okay, so I have to be honest, I'm speaking with essentiallyzero experience in this area, but it does seem like a lot of these Ron coms,and you know I guess it's because this is one of the things I enjoyed aboutwhen harring mit sally, because I didn't do this a lot of these wrongcoms. People meet in theire like Noim, in love, right and- and this was- andthis was one of my beefs with ten things I hate about. Youi can stuclyou guys. Oh Gosh, you can still hear us right. Okay, we can hear you, that'sall that's important and I just kicked roun. Oh No, I did't. okay, I can hear youagein. Okay, I can hear you okay, all right. We did now. Yes, so did you hear?Did you hear what we just said about that? Yes, I heard most of that, Ithink you're talking you were talking about the negative yeah, the Neggas,the you know the positive negaive side of the portrayal of love that sometimesthey get close to to talking about unconditional gape love, and even youknow display that, even though probably wouldn't that those Ternms, but theyalso, I think the stumbling block Igtiv side. Is they emphasize overempasize,formantic clob saying well, you know if this person makes you feel Lik andnigate these relationships, fous of what sort of Commin right right, yeahyeah. I think that that's hit's, a really good distinction to make and ROMcolms tend to focus on the in general, tend to focus on the more like romantic aspects like how youmake me feel or whatever I think, I'- really good, but example of a Romcomthat does more of the agape style likeselfless, like you, O seeking the good of the other person kind of love meetthe browns. Actually, does that really well have either of you seen meet thebrowns? No, I haven'tnobut never heard of it Hatokay, so so angel abassat. Youneed O to watch it because it sayngs a little Basti for one time, but AngelaBasset plays a single mother, her son Shis son and a daughter I beliefe, it'sbeen a while, since I've only seen it one time and it's been quite a while.The Sun Excels in basketball. He ends up catching the interest of a coach who used to play professionally, and soanyway, she ends up falling in love with the coach and he falls in lovewith her. And then I forget exactly what causes the conflict, but basicallyshe gets the impression that Oh he's just in this to make money off my sonas n as like to act as functioally as like an agent for him to get him toplay professional ball when she finds out later that, no that he is actuallyhere just as an advisor to your son.

Sorry, I should have said spoiler alertto all of you who have not watched me, the press, but basically he goes. Heknows things are on the rocks with her. He may never get her back, but becausehe cares so much about her and her son and helping them to because that's theother things they're in a very like impoperished situation. He cares somuch about helping them rise up out of that that he agrees to stay on as likeas an adviser to her son before he signs with this with the NBA at nocharge like like he's not doing it to better himself, he's doing it becausehe cares about her and her family when she learns that that completely changesthe int thats like the pivot of the film like towards the end, it wasreally. I personally found it very emotionally impactful, because youdon't see stuff like that. Very often this specaly there are like lots ofhigh staks there so anyway meet the browns. I think does a really great jobof that. So you know S. here's a trope, slish clice cliche that well probably put us firmly in the Prudcamp, the sex. I find it if not, but you know, I think, when Harry Ma Sallyis a great example of this, because o k o like was aspes illy crystal illy, Crystal's whole thing like Ohminimum, we can't be six, it be sex. Let me get man, many women can't be sexbecause the friends get in the way. I think that's a very bad way of sayingyou got cockwak men and women can't be friends becausethe sex gets in the way, and that's like the point of that movie is thatthat's not true. For them they become friends or a long time, and then theyfall in love and that's why and that's one of the reasons why he freaks out somuch when they have sex CI, like you know, is this going to affect ourfriendship. You know this. This is changing the relationship, but thatidea that you, oh you, can't have Male Vima characters with a deep, meaningfulrelationship unless they're, Bang or intending to Beelp, and I find thatridiculous and that's that's just a very common thing in allof Hollywood,yeah and- and I think that's also eah problem. The big problem you get whenand we've talked about this before don't get a lot of dig Gu, girl,friendships or Guyg, like even at this point, even Goy, Guy onthunsfriendships ar fo girlfriend friendships, because the whole idea is well. If you do likesomeone that much, why can't you be sexually intimate, even if you're Guand a guy or girl a girl? And it's like o? Well, that's not why I don't like itit'sit's, because it's because you can't even depict good friendships, youknow yeah and they struggle with that just because they see sex as being whatmakes it haverly like. Oh, you have an Atsex et. I mean that that is reallythe depiction. Is that if you're just like you're just you know going out andhissing and like its you're, just you're, just somehon you're interested,I you're not anything until the episit and like that's and it's such a yeah.It really is an unhealthy thing, and it's and it's funny- I wouldn't sayit's funny, but it's crazy. How normally ARD os seeing it just becauseyeah you think of all the even the TV shows that you really like mean evensomething like the office, which is you know I would I wouldn't particularlysay s overly sexual at all. It's very lipant. You know when a characters likeoh you slep with Angela, I ' like. Oh my gosh, it's like wow that was that'sgetting thrown around pretty easily like Yeah Y. U K W it's just this thingthat gets thrown out of there in real life. I would just see that it's sobracive, yeah, yeah and- and it is, it is funny when you o go back and Rewatchsumthing, like I don't remember there being hiss accident but itst funny,because because you know generally parents are kind of not down on those sorts of thingsthetheyret kind of like well, we can't watch. Kids is money going back throughand they're always like. Oh, you should be watching this ses lik back watchingCrasur my parents, Andis, like every single episode, is sex CENAL. It is now don't get me wrong.It is hysterical. T is hysterical, but it's just it's so rampant that you stopnoticing it until you go back and you're lookingfor it like, because it's something you don't it's one of thoe things where onthe second wash through when you're looking for ansiliary stuff, becauseyou already know, what's going on primariy s, you can kind of watch whatelse is going on. You notice, like Oh this ier thing, yeah, it's interestingthat you've got mal, which is kind of revered as like one of the best, if notthe like, most quintessential romcom, ever Tom Hanks, an MAG Mirin, don'thave sex in that movie Yep. I Yo one of th things I liked about it. It was. Itwas yeah. I thought that I thought thats, that's really interesting tothink about where the majorty of these rongcoms yeah, like like. Oh, we slepttogether and you know now now I'm like Whoa is this. Is this a thing now orwhat's happening, Blah Bah Blah, whereas you've got mail, it's all aboutthem, gitbing to know each other like...

...who that person really is on the insideversus just a physical relationship in I think of all the romcoms. I watchaneparation, that n city lights very poignant, ending O as great definitelyrecommend Tho other than city lights, Lik, the only rom com that didn't thenyou've got mail that didn't have the characters if each other at some pointhring the film was. I thinks I hate about you. It's true yeah, which hatpoints to points the mynixs I hate my my mom is really into dramas. Now, as she watched crashlanding on you. Nodon't ask me an ask her about that. One ECAUSE, that's the one! Naomi and momare waens. Well. She also likes movies to like the CREEM movies, like lovemovie, but one of the main things she likes about is because there's hardlylike there's. There is very little light. I mean tnot very little, butlike there's not a whole lot of physical intimacy like like, likeusually it's like a kiss. That happens at the end. Finally, so much tensionbuilt up. It's almost like you watch, like you know, animes, where it's likethe guys, always nervous and the girls overly like in love and very expressivethat, like I, never wants to do anything and then, even when he getskissed, he's like turning red and running away and like that, it's kindof kind of like that field to where it's, it's all very much wrapped aroundthese small little physical things, but like the emotion and everything isstill built and done up really well, and I actually appreciate that aspect,although I just don't necessarily go for great ois like I, I don't lessllyget into them. The there is actually there's a really really cute very short,and I thinks, like ten episodes, anime called my love story about this guywho's, basically like giant and ugly, and falls in love with this cute girl,and it's like there, it's both of theirs, first time dating and so she'stalking with her friend and she', I feel so lewd. I just want to hold hishand and someone I comes are commented. I bet you wanted to call him by yourfirst name to Yaho, but Yei, actually really like the it'sadorable. That's that's! That's Hilarious, that that made me Keyhaul op. Thank you for using that expression.Yeah. Apparently nobody on the planet Youa an uses. Well, it's you do, andnow I do at but yeah so t the sex. I don't thinkwe need a hard fun in anymore, but I find that I'mnoxious, it's just ademicin our culture. It is what it is, but you're right, I didn't think about it,but yeah you've got mal, didn't have that so props prop en you've got mailfor making a great movie that didn't. Let's move on other other trup H,cliches I'd mentioned the whole falling in loveinstantly right again again, not speaking from anoutsiders perspective that just seems a little Tis Giveng, how much time ittakes to form a friendship. I would think you know a romance takes similar amount of time. I mean you canbe attracted to someone on first glance. I I buy that Ahe brant, but but the idea of being like. Ohthat's a person. I want to spend the rest of my life with you know,especially when I only buy that, if looks, are the onlything that Matteredt you and if they are you're, not setting yourself up fora good relationship right yeah, that's that that's, but I mean for thepurposes of like excellering story. That's one of the things I liked aboutwhen hermits I because it was this like twelve year period of this relationshipwith ups and downs. I think a lot of these have have not stellar gender pile politics, I'm,although the ones the ones I watched were e e. You know I didn't noticeanything to miister or offensive. What do you think is? I honestly, I don't think I have seenenough ROM COMSTON like to make super comment on on that and what? What? What trope were we going todig into next, because I don't like to talk about hitch at some point, becauseI know the three of us all really enjoy hit fitch was good, O, okay, here's sohere's one commen thread. I notice. I don't know I. This is necessarily a badthing, but I feel like every single one is about the guypursuing the girl M. I think every single one guy was pursuing the girl, so I don'tknow I are the rum comes where that's reversed. That's a good question because I feel like yeah, because Ifeel like generally, the male takes the more active role in pursuit in pursuingthe the female which that sounded science journally, that was that wasthe most sexes precentation of arom com. Ever the man pursues the female memil stocks, the MI, the male stocks,his bray yeah. I don't know, I don't know ifthere are any good ones with the Ma being pursued. I'm sure there are thatI'm just I'm sure there are. I mean the only one I can think of is my bestfriend's wedding, and I already said I hated that Oneyeah yeah, but that Imean for unrelated reasons yeah. So so I think I think it does fall into therope of the man, pursues the women and you, I think, Mostis okay, not in...

...imgetting mixed up on my head, not innodting Hill Notting Hill He'v Grant is just like a regular bookstore owner andshe's like the really rich celebrity one, but in a lot of them the man wasin the more prominent position at leapoll a kind of an exception, buthe's technically Indo. So so so those are. Those are some somethings. I notice that I don't know are necessarily inherently bad, but itwould nice to to see those referst again in Nottinghill. Julia Roberts wasthe person in the position of power she had. She was the one with the wealthomMonein, the prestiged. He was kind of a nobody who just ran a book store, Ohboy, but I felt for him when the one guy comesin is like you have you guys have Harry Potter? No, this isa travel book store, Oh yea, the Ladis John Gresshen novel. No, this is a. Wehave travel books, wesell travel books. Oh, do you have s like other guycustomer for you? Oh my God feel that Ma and then th the BA is later in themovie. Julye Roberts comes comes back to the store he the that same customeropens the door. You Great Hi Oesn't know you leave right now get out. That's so great! So that's one andagain I don't think that's an inherently negative one, but I do thinkit's interesting that at least among the ones I watched t again dery broadgenre. That was always the way it was for the and I think in a lot of themwhen the women was pursuing like there were some there's, some some moviesthat have beepots of the women pursuing it, and that's always the crazy m yeahthat that's that I don't think that's an unfair point. I would definitely be interested to todo a little more research into that because t that's again, I don't thinkI've seen enough ROM coms to have really picked up on that aspect, butthat's that's. Definitely something worth was looking into. I'm thinkingabout. Oh, go ahead, no go ahead. I was JI've. Just ready, Wogon to the nextpoint Y, you were talking about like inversions. One of the things I thinkis really interesting about hitch is most wron coms, while, yes, the the theguy, is doing the pursuing and things like that, but the woman is still themain character. Yes for the on the whole anyway, right Hitt is interestingbecause the main character of the romcom is a guy yeah or two guys. YeahYeah, like like you, have like the bee plot with like Albert Brittaman, which is which isinteresting a so I like that and, like you know, talking about cliches hitchhas I remember when I first watched hitch not long after it came out- and Iwas like this- has so many good lines, and then I watched it again last year,I'm like these lines are Corny as yes, they are, but this so they're delivered.So well. You love it. Yes, yeah! You, like, Oh man, yeah! No, like you know the the line about lives, not how manybreaths do you take, but how many moments take your breath away orwhatever and lik you could just go on and on about all of the cheesy corninglines that will Smith TDELIVERS, but yet he doesn't so well like he'r, notthinking about it. Well, I know his job is to deliver those corny lines in away like because he's that's his job. The GO YEAHC is it's likee thing thateverybody's, like, Oh, my gosh, that's so stupid and then, like Lhot's await,is like ot, herevery, girlffor ors. Every girl's, like that's the cooniestthing, Iver heardyenthat's kind of like his character. He does it so well aslike it's it's hard. Even to imagine a character can pull something like thatoff. Like man, yeah he's just really good man, I love little smeff, yeah,Butwell and, and that's the thing like he, the whole movie is about inversionand and how he's coaching Aur Bredaman through all of these things like ohwell, if you do this, this will happen, and if you do that, like you know,that's going to make her think Blah Blah Blah and then, in the end,everything that a legric call loved about Albert was that Wasout therAlfred Albert Yeah, like Yeah Yeah, like the all the things that she lovedabout him, were all the things that, like everybody else like dude, you areSuper Awkward Nowlike, a all the things that had made him like made it moredifficult for him to fit in or whatever like she, she loved all of those thingsabout him, and so in the end it didn't matter and, and so the and that momentis a huge point for will smith fo for hitch, because he's eall about likeI've done this so many times. This is how this works. You know I've brokendown the mind of a woman. I know how to operate, and then that moment, wherehe's like he's like, I love thes, you know the dance moves and hit just likewait. That was all him and that's what Yeah Uti changes the paradigme porm andthen and then, because his Tek Joki is yeah righttthe best part of the movieis like is when he's sitting there he's like. Do you have a pin ea his arm doesreachiinhis pocket times is Pocke and moves back and she jus. Never she uslike who is that it's Yeah I love hitch well and- and soI mentioned earlier, hitch has perfct...

...personal significance for me and I feellike I may have shared the story with you guys, and I can so forgive me ifI'm repeating myself but before Ryan and I were dating Ryan, myhusband, we, we were friends for a year and a half,and I really liked him like a lot and I could not. I was really really scared to putmyself out there and to try to say hey. I would like to be more than just yourfriend or whatever I watched hitch with with a buddy of mine. She came over, wehad ta sleep over was really fun she's, like Hey, have you seen at just like?No, I haven't seen it she's like Oh gir, we're goingno watch itch so by the endof the fell. I was like wow like he was operating from a place of fear all thistime and that's exactly what I'm doing, because this is me, I'm actually, Iprocess all both my emotions through the linsof fiction, so by the end ofthat movie, like a like man, I am like I've got to do something differently. Iwas a I was. I was so afraid of making the wrong move. I wasn't making anymove at all, and so not long after that riht I started dating through, but forhim it was kind of a similar thing like we had this long talk about how we nomatter what we always wanted to be to be friends, but we, and so like, oncewe had kind of established that we were able to push forward with ourrelationship, and so I mean we've been together since two thousand and sevenso like this is for me, like hitch. Has that kind of emotional significance,because I went through that process of being afraid and and not just beingafraid of making our friendship, awkward, but also being afraid of beingwith the wrong person because m I'm the I'm the kind of person like if I'mgonna date. Someone like this. I need to know that this could have thepotential for longevity, like I don't want to waste my time just datingaround just to be dating so anyway. Hitch was really good for me, but thatthat was a cool, so hmost oi. If I might commedically condense your story,Yeah You Watch Hitch and you'R and then you're like okay, I'm Goin TA. Do it inyour friend is, like God, speet spider man? So then you walk up to Rynd andyou're like hello that and then finally, you know Ryns like this. Your friend is like we got Hem, AU toand you're like, and the rest is history yeah, and you know it's really funny,because Y'all know me I'm very extriberted and chatty or whatever, andI would get so nervous around Ryan like I would finally go up and I would sayhi and then I would kind of awkwardly stay in there and then just walk away.So would be like what did you say in the whole hello there when you finally got it all right, so we run very long, sowe're back baby we're back. We do you. Actually. I have a retraction to issue.We talked about the ending of watchman. I went back on reread watchmin and itdoes end. It actually does end with dotor Manhattan leaving, but in themovie it's because he's like I cause the accident psyche and then dabs outof there in the in the movie, and the Comic Book is because he realizesthere's nothing left for him to him to accomplish on earth. He's quote:Unquote, moved beyond humanity, but even though he's not goetting blamedfor he still like this is a good point. This is this, is you know, i'me doneeverything I wante to do on Earth, I'm leaving now to just do whatever he doesand another thing that they hidn't, which I don't know how you wouldcapture this. Is this idea that he's perceives time all fiultaneouslytalking, there's like the sceme, where he first goes to Mars, he's narratingand he's like ten seconds from now. I'm dropping this five minutes ago. I'mdoing ths t one thousand nine hundred and sixty seven, and this is happening.So I don't know how you do that in Nif film, but that, but yes, I made anerror, doesn't change my opinion at all. Didn't change a thing I was. I waswrong in that one. Small detail: I was right about everything else, so youknow what a ninety five percent is an a I'll. Take it yeah. So that's that forus again, romcom huge enre. Let us know if there are any rom comes that youlove that you hate something that you that's called Aroung, come that you ere,like that's, not a ROM com, sn that isn't a rum com that you're like thatis a rum com. We didn't touch an animate movies, Swan Princess. That's aRon COM, argueably beauting, the beast, a sai this! This is the this is thebasically the Rong conversion is die. Harnder Christmas movie, you know it w will wewere definitely going to getinto that at some point, but I would argue it's not. For the same reason Iwould argue: SCOP Pilkum is a romcom about the central intention. Yeathink Thi isa movie that has happens to have en at Christmas, but haven anywhere elsewould have still been die hard an we can take place n at a time, hat's, notChristmas, and it doesn't change anything. Then it's not a Christmas ratgrinch taking place at haloween makes...

...no sense right there. It is an animatedfeature. Called Halloween is Grinsh Knight. Yes, but that's separate. It's not the same. Thingercanenjoy Hellen anyways, don't want to tangent. So if you want to get incontact with us hit us up with a me you, you send Tus something Aso. This isyou'R here. You can just say it. I was about Merca Tomay and yes, yes, yes,the so the the extra layer of funny in the Tom, Holl and spiderman films is thatMarisa Toma and Robert gonn junior acted opposite each other in severalRong coms in the early S, but they also dated for a short time. So there you goyeah there you go by all accounts. It doesn't make sense. so you can email usdearly debated at gmailcom. You can send us a tweet at dearly, debated,actually help people get in touch with you all right, a few different ways.You can talk to me. You can tweep me at the nerdy blogger. You can like myfacebook page at Facebookcom, the nerdy blogger. You can read my writing on twodifferent sites. I have a weekly column on Fangirlishcom called way backWednesday, where I review one retro film a week and and admits thedemelition man as greats fol all time nope and then you can also be read my writing on popculture, Retro Ramacom, where I write about slightly old things and right now,mostly the marble gargols comic book, Sreieoe Thousand Nine hundred and Nineyfive regularda. Yes, you can find me on facebook at chapter one films. You canalso check on my website chapter one tilms dot Bizz, you can email me Gregat chapter. One films, Tat, Biz and also me and Athaniel- produce a littlecooking show the kitchen chemist and you can find us all over the place butcheck out you dube the kitchen chemist. We are pretty much the first resultthere we are and yeah or dever. We are the ferstal sell when we started therewas another kitchen cemist that had two subscriver, a far surpassed them theyrethose foolish and they were like Youw're SOM, weird, like Homi OPA, theCVD Tha at lamb yeah. We got an episode on eggs that should be up this weekend,the weekend of as recording the on the twenty first, the twenty first ofJanuary that that 'll be up this weekend. I've put some stuff on H, amillion dollars to you monopoly money. If you can identify thesong reference, I make at the very beginning episode aeggs, that's a song reference thatnobody, but ethon will get he's the only other person Hohe's for that SongYeah. So you can find me at Holy Golam and, of course, we until next time guyskeep Han fun of there. You know I think Romcom is a nice, like is a feel goodon definitely fun and I'm gonna keep watching. He I'm keep watching Hembecause see that the fuckles ill be shoe. Why I'm an Efrican, no nolrightby Everybodyn take care. Ithink you like make you Wana. Kep Is Snak love me an me Ani ta of Y TeiavBen Mybut. I JUO SOMEBODY.

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