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Episode 16 · 1 year ago

Enter the Nolanverse

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

(note: there is a very loud game of pinochle occurring next to our recording room we apologize for the background noise) *INCEPTION NOISES* Greg and Nathanael will let you finish, but Christopher Nolan is one of the hottest directors of ALL TIME! We're looking at all his movies in chronological order and musing on his strengths and weaknesses. Nathanael forgets the word 'orientation' and sdrawkcab gnikaeps si gerG!

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...see so what I could do, for instance, is Icould take this sound and make it, but what save that and then should just M Mabe? Oh No, ladies and gentlemen, atNhedaniel Levinson now has full axuss to soundbites via hockeys. We are aboutto Gite thembarten, wonderful. This GOINNA be great show anyway. So all right, L T, let's jumpinto it now. This is question mainly for you, okay, but I'll put in my twosensas well, what do you think makes Christopher Nall and a good director,and we are, I guess, we're arguing that he's a good director. I mean, I think it's pretty wellestablished that Heis, a good director, I think, Noland does a lot of prettyamazing things, one he just keepwel. He makes good movies a d. that's kind ofstep, one to be good directors and movies actually have to be good, and Ithink a more in depth question is: why are his movies good specifically- and Iagree I mean- and in his movies do have a pretty decent kind of fingerprintacross across most of his films, where you can kind of tell what his style isas opposed to others, something he does it's really cool and pretty unique. IsHe tries to introduce a concept into his movies? Okay, so I'll be able. Weknow we're going to talk about the most these movies individually, but I'llgive a couple examples. So the prestige, so the prestige starts off by Internen.We're going to get there. Okay go through all F his movies he's Lik. AskE that many movies yeah. I know you askd me why I think he's a gooddirector, I'm just Goin, to give a quick example: I'm not going to go intodeath about the PRECIG, so it so, for instance, in the beginning of thefirstty outside a it's try to hit this one athow thehorse ws. So when he endered, when he introduces this idea in the prestigethat he anroduces this idea of a magic trickin the PESTII- and he tells you how it starts- what happens after itstarts and then the end, which is called the Brestige, it's it's Michael Cane, introducing it, andthis concept has to do with the magic tricks you're like Ohl. This isinteresting. This is this is a movie about people that are doing magic, sothis is very relevant, but what you don't kind of catch on to until you'redone with a whole movie is hat. The whole movie was essentially that magictrick. The whole movie introduced an idea. It took that that concept awayand then it revealed it in the end with the prestige. So the whole movie playedaround this idea that Michael Cane roducding, the very beginning, now allof his movies and again ill wait till we kind of hit these individually kindof had that same underlining theme where he introduces a really radicalconcept, and he makes this whole entire movie kind of follow that conceptwithout the viewers, even really knowing it's a complicated thing, butwhen we get into each of the movies a'll kind of explain it a little more.Another thing he does really well is payoffs. Most movies really strugglewith this, and this essentially just means is your movie really suscinct,like Juest the beginning of the movie, actually have purpose to the interview.Do all of your scenes have purpose to them as opposed to most people who arethese days just kind of write, a movie and then e like Oh well, let's just putin like like some comedy here, let's just put in a a anaction scene here,let's put in this there for Christopher Nollan. All of those scenes have suchamazing payoffs. So if there is a scene that has a bit of comedy, you might say,okay, this this scene served its purpose of being funny, but thatspecific bit of information that was given out thou as funny will have abigger role to play later in the movie, and he does a really good job at makingall of the moments in his movies pay off really well later in the movie towhere you feel like man, the whole entire movie made sense and it hadpurpose to it. If I miss certain scenes, I would probably be lost in thesemovies, because there is so much that is paid off later in thes movie. Soit's such an entertaining thing to watch they're entertaining to go backand watch because you miss a lot of the payoffs to where you're, like all that,so they did that. So I would honestly argue that in some cases that's a pointgainst Mollin movies is, you have to watch them twice to know what's goingon, which is not necessarily a good point it. If there's enough on thesurface alt, you can enjoy and be like. Oh, but there were some things that Ithink I missed hes Li n go back, but there are also some movies which we'regoing to get into these, where it's like you watching, like Im, Nodea whatthe hell just happened right so so there's some movies where I rewatchedso like snatch. I rewatched because I was like I really enjoyed that, but I'mnot sure what happens O I neither we watchitg to bigger out make sure I wasI was be for enjoyed it the first time, but you were able to go back get moreat right, whereas something like Memento, which I don't think is a badmovie right. But I watched it and I was just like there was. There was thetwist and I got the twist and then I was like okay, but the rest of themovie is kind of confuse me. I'V, almost like Okay Kill Bill M riht. You know how killbill like Karntia wanted to be one movie, and then he just chopped andscrew it, because theywere like making...

...into to e Sa Tooin Al Lot ofconological order, and it was really hard to follow Yep and it made. In myopinion, there are people who argue with me on this: The second half thatsat killed, the linecoon really moring. I agree with you on that one. Actually.I know a lot of people disagree, but yeah. I agree so because they putbasically what three out F, the four fights Rien kilbot on ICALLY, the onewith Lucy Lu, which is so was super cool, and there was a lot of good storyOlens in that as well and thin. The second Hass was literally just likeherback Stloor with bill and the five part Por, the fivepoint Palm Hartexploding, techniqas so Tufi that was thos s like in this movie of likeflying, samuraizing and crazy swords. You managed to put in something so ridiculous. It was stupid. That'snot a good look parent! You know! No, I agree nd and to your point I definitelyagree. I think momentos a good example of one that for me I was probablycloser to to the line of saying. I think I liked it good enough the first time, but itdefinitely paid off more the second and theof time. I watched it now, let's,let's be clear- that was one of his earler removed, sure yeah, so you knowhe's defeloped his crafter time, but I think when I look at Nola movies, Ithink a lot of times he tries. He goes an goes for a concept thatmaybe doesn't work best as a mean and then tries to do it as a mead. I thinkMI honestly work better in other meanings, and I think I think I wouldpoint to the dark night as a his directing like to say. This is why Ithink he's a good director because it doesn't have that having to think really deeply about.What's going on in the plot, you can just take a take a seat back and lookat the directing itself. Sure which I wouldn't say, Thet Gart night is isbest. I don't think it's he best directed work, but I think it's a goodexample. I think Oh yeah tes axoclly, that Arninh think is like inenstoexample how key's a good director yeah and you don't have to worry about theplot wlacking you over the head with e Pole. Sure No, and it's like you, saidit' like the movie and you're. Absolutely right. A movie has to beasorable for People Li. If it's not, if you can't, naturally just exorb it bysitting there watching and you have to like- have a pen and Pencil and be Posiging to Reacou like yeah, then it's in my opinion. It didn't do its job and-and I and I'm not saying that, I'm not saying that there shouldn't be thingswhere it's like that merit rewaching S. I think Scott Pilgrim is soyean thatlike rewards you for rewatching it because there's a lot of stuff fastend,there's like facethick, jokes, yeah and Therre a lot of a lot of high dialogue.COMEDIS are like this. Where you understand the plot, you get most ofthe jokes and then, when you Rewatchyo, like Oh here's, some subtle things thatthey threw that you wouldn't get if you weren't, if you weren't like because othe first bat do you Ayng attention to the main stuff and your second watchstudent Ans, you know what's happening, you're kind of looking at the MINUSIAand that's when you know get the depth of the movie sure yeah. No. I thinkthat the sign of a really amazing movie is a movie that you can enjoy the firsttime and then it gets better. Every time you watch it yeah. The problem is,if you don't enjoy it the first time and then it gets better wh n, the nexttime you watch it. That's good, and you know it's probably a solid movie, but Ithink it loses points in my book because it needs to be. It needs to beimmediately understood to do its job, EA you're right. I think I think, noone for sure bumps up on the bigges that line. In my opinion, the vastmajority of his movies Faull Yeah Good Yi, O that where yea you havejoy an ojust continuously enjoy the more times you watch it, where I would say,Momento Tos, that line a little closer and then his newest movie, which wemight get into later Tena. I think, maybe because I've only seen it oncefalls very far on that thethee bad side. That way like what is going N, buthonestly, I'm a perfectly okay with it, because if you're not taking rists likethat, don't get really interesting movie Noh yeah, and that's why e'sknown for, for I mean like that's why, when he has a movie coming out,everybody wants to go and see it because they're just ready to get theirmind blown I mean no I'll, be honest. I I had a tenant, didn't spark annynginterest and tenant an nnesdeller. Neither of them sparked any interest time. So I like him as a director I've like movies up that I've seen of his Ienjoy, but I'm not like. Oh, I need to go see the next noll movie, so itdoesn't hit that note for me, but I do enjoy the movies I watch. So, let'sjump into those. Let's do it Memento Omen. So all right! So when did you seethis movie herse Nemento Long Time Ago? Memento is literally howdid. This happen te movie. Well, okay, so for those who you don'tknow like there's going to be spoilers as just yeah, I, the title of each ofthese movies, just be ready for spoiless, because we're going to go indepth yeah on them, so so head or ther warnings. So we don't want to hear youdon' want to hear anything onless Tan, Mel Yo, want. We warned you, and so, ifyou, if you were ruined, if you ere, if you get any of these moves ruined foryou and you want to complain just remember- you have done that yourself,so so skip to the next movie. You don't want tha ant to so we'll say beginmoment met Momento Memento Segments Agang. So it's an extremely interestingmovie and it's something that now I very much love when I first watched itin the same boat. Is You where I was like that was really interesting? Ithink I still thought it was a great movie, but I definitely needed to watchit more times to fall in love with it like. I have now the concept that hethat he tries to tackle of saying: okay, here's a person that has short term andreloss. First of all, how can you possibly see the life through theireyes right, like, like you, just...

...imagine, a movie being written whereit's, where it's finding Nemo every two seconds of character forgets things andits almost it's. It almost can't be intoduced in any way, but comedybecause you're like Oh, I get to see this whole story unfold, and so he doesthis in this genius way of telling it backwards right. So each scene startsand you're, starting with the character in the movie going. Okay, let's lookaround for signs how the heck did I get here? Why do I have a bottle of rum inmy hands? I don't really feel drunk, but I've got a cut on my head. Ohthere's a guy tied up in my clotse Andand, so obviously at first Yo likehow can you possibly tell us the sant movie like this? How was the moviegoing to make any sense when it started with the guy being shot like the guy?Was the guy was killed in the first scene in eas developing picture of theguy that Ait's the opening se ser like okay? This is moving backwards in thestory. How is this Possibli tin o make sense, but the way that the bit film isshot and the best way I've tried to understand this in my head? Is Let'spreten there's an imaginary time line in front of you? Okay, it's a phonenoogle like it's one of those movie dolls you play within the Poors. GoIt's going right across from you from left to right and that's the time I e.Now you grab each end of that film noodle and you pull it towards youwhere it creates a you. That's how the movie is told it's told from thebeginning and the end, and then they both go in one direction and eventuallythey meet in the middle of the movie in the movie ends in the middle. It'sgoing backwards from the end of the movie and it's going forwards and blackand white from the beginning of the movie. An in it meets is the very mintl,and so you constantly bat back and forth between a black and white scene,and then it cuts to an en another scene from the future. That's going backright and that to me, when I finally kind of grasped that- and I was able towatch it kind of knowing that it was so good my opinion, it was just so awesomejust because, just because it's fresh and new like right, like it's, not justa movie about some Guy Detective Guy Shooting some other guy. What about youjust hear your typical movies and it's told in such a such a cool way and itwas his big breakout yeah. No, I mean well because that's that's a hart. Imean imagine, imagine introducing that concept. Anybody tink Al Right. This ishow I want to tell the movie I want to tell it backward t's like what Lhat'sfunny is, if that is like really actually played out pretty hard Corean,I so I'll bring up. Now. Let me let me let's Rorwine and major spoilers. If Iremember right like he killed his wife Right, so I don't see what I'm, whatwhen I'm not remembering, is or what he didn't pick up on his. Why did hetatchoo himself with all this stuff? Okay, so so this is. This is basicallyin, and this is one of the underlying mysteries of the movie. You don'treally don't write so so throughout the movie he's constantly from the from thedirection that's going forward, so thi's the one that, starting at thebeginning of thestory, it's in black and white, he's talking on the phone tosomebody that you're actually not sure who it is and he's having theseconversations about one of his clients he used to have that. Had this shortterm memory loss and his his wife kept telling him. Oh no like like it's notthat like it's s just in his head and H, I need him to snap out of it. So I'mgoing to have him give me my injections, for she was a iametic Du. She was a diabetic, so sheneed to get her EPP shots or whatever every whatever. Every day in insulinthere we go on fv, epiniffren cash, and so she said: okay, I'm going totell him to do it every. I think it was like three minutes. He lost hismemories. Every three minuts, If min to tell he o doitg again and he's Goinna,have to know that if he keeps doing this he's going to kill me, and so I'vegot to get him to snap out of it, so she varil basically keeps telling himokay, it's time for my shot time for my shot, andhe Neever, he never remembers.He keeps thinking he's the first time, he's done it that day and evintuallykills her. Now you find out later through, like a bunch of twist andagain. This is one of like those second and Third Times you watch e type thingsthat his name is like. His name is never really mentioned in the movie,and it ends up being the initials of that guy that he talks about in thestory right and then you find out that that story never actually happened,that it wasn't real it like at the very end. You have him talking to hisbuddiness, but he's like yeah that storyis not real. You were that guy.You killed your wife and you think oh he's just kind of bsing him becausehe's trying to control him, because that's the whole point in the moviesthat everyod's trying to control this guy who's lost his memory and he's andin his whole purpose in life. Is I want to tack to all this evidence of thisguy that killed my wife right and you're? Not what you're not sure of iseither a his wife really was murdered and he started this journey to go andfind the murderer after he murdered the guy. This guy took advantage of thatand kept giving him people to kill like this dirty dude is like okay. Now youneed to tell this guy and kept feeding him information so hat. He would end upgoing in like pretty much being a hit hand or if he accidentally killed his wifeor or purposely killed his wife in some weird way and has just continued lifewas at that point taken advantage of by this other guy who fed him the storyright. That's that's, who I'm forgetting the other guy, so heactiently kills his wife and then the other guy starts manipulating him,because ret es okay gorreat. That makes Morse Suan. I was I couldn't somereason I was failing and it's been a while, since I watched I, but I wasGoin t made t e connection between the fact that he killed his wife and thenthe fact that he had alhis tes to try to find his swifes killer hm. I couldnot remember why like how he ended up...

...in that situation. Right yeah. No, Imean at the very beginning of the movie. He kills his in his buddy's name is, Ithink, it's head, so he so the very Vini, the movie, it's Teds thead bodyand he's developing the picture. He just took a ten and so Yo'r like wait.Why did he kill this guy because it keeps developing backwards and thisguys is bunny and it keeps going back, rors o goings backwards, goingbackwards until you meetat that middle point, where he just realized what hejust admitted to him. Hey I've been manipulating this you this whole time,but you're just going to forget this right before he forgets it. He takes apicture of him writs down. Don't trust this guy right right, right, right andhe eat tattoo. I think it's the same name, always it's just like John J orsomething and like that's the guy on Dakim, Inglim, yeah and so yeah it like it's. It's Sho, it's funny!It's like a really dark version of fifty fir states, but that's my whole Fang. Really, IT'SIKE! Think of any other movie that's dealt with. Something is as kind ofinteresting in mindblowing I memory loss, yeah, and is it ever done in anyway but comedy or Riming, maybe some kind of charm in firsoer states, butit's mainly just it's a comic thiy like h. You forget that and yeah. So so,what's really interesting is there's a series of games that I mentioned duringa Vido game, podcast called him Nisia and theire horror, games and I'll spoilthe the I'm going to spoil the pots of the first two movies they're verysimilar. Basically, you wake up you're, this brige dude and you wake up and youhave no idea why? U, why you're there and you have a note in the first oneinethon dark Santwhich, I think, is the superior game. You wake up and you havea note that just says go to the bottom of the castle and kill in it's now.Your name is Danien killd whataver, the guys name is and so you're like goingthrough this castle, trying to piece together. How did I get here? Why you w?Why didn't even note to myself to kill this guy o? What's going on and why aretheir monsters everywhere and aggressive, pink pudding, wit's tryingto kill me it's a little weird it'sit's like tjust, it's like thes, likeprutest cancers, growth, the graphics aren't good, so it kind of just lookslike like: Can Salmon pure just like Ohnohatmightbe, but but as you go through the game, itturns out. Okay, you were an archaeologist and you were digging inthis place in Egypt. You found this orb thing and when you touched it somethingstarted chasing you and started killing people around you, and so you met thisguy and this guy was like. I don't know how to fix this. You have to feed itsuffering, so he goes and he the guy who's, like a parent in some grandomplace in the middle of nowhere. His kidnapping is citizens and portraingthem in like horrible cruching ways like women and children. You knowhorrible torture, devices and pronzils. It's really pretty grotesque and er Lik.You were complicint with this because you're helping this guy, but it turnsout this guy was just trying to get back tis dimension. It got a littleweird. She was like an alien, somehow his a little confusing me, but right soit was. You gave yourself in Mesia because you'R Like I can't deal withthe stuff that I've done, but I need to stop this guy, so you give yourself anMisia right and the second one is is very similar where you wake up in themiddle of nowhere, and this voice is like hey. Can you turn on this machine?For me and it's all about you know, society is filled with people who arepigs and Loel ees a lot of Piggin Magrin yeah, not very subtle, but itturns out that you went to some ASZTEC temple and had a vision of World WarTwo and and and a vision of your sons dying in World War. Two, so you killthem, so they don't have to suffer through it and I'm like it's a BITTECstreet world ware one I think actually, but that in both cases the the potdevice is you have in Misia and then you slowly unfold. The story doesn'tKite. Do the both ends. I surely INSEER eveiing, but you start you don't unfold.The things in to in the right order, right you get bits and pieces and kindof got to put them together in order and figure out. Oh here's, the pictureof. What's going on right, so yeah. I think that your first kind of thoughtis: How do it has a person exist in this? How can they make any sense ofanything going on around them yeah, but I think he did a really interesting joband developing this guy's system for hown keeps trap yeah. It's like superimportant things. He Tattoos on his body, theright kind of like his maingoals and purpose right other than that he's just got all these clues that he'skind of like digging out of his pockets almost right, and it's such aninteresting thing, how he leaves clues for himself at the very end of thescene where, in the previous scene, you just saw himuse that clue and you're like O wherehow. Did he get that coaster?That's got an address written on it because he pulls it out of his pocket.He's like all right. I get Bat. I guess better go here and in the next scene,you see why he does that and you're like. Oh, that makes sense, becausehe's literally leaving itso himself for himself in the next tin, and it's just.I think it's such a bizarre idea that if somebody were to tell to you you'dgo all right. I can't see how that's going to be done. Well, yeah, it beinterested if you did do it what's what what I think works really really wellabout that in both the movie and in the Games I just mentioned. Is Your yourthe character that you're supposed to be empathizing with is learning thingsas youre learning things right? So they're, not yes, like they're, notjust like, oh by the way, dump exposition right, which is obnoxiouswhet. You mean whet they're, like we they're into this, and the person'slike. Well, I've seen this before. Why...

...did' you see this ten minute expositiondone right! It's you know: they're learing, these things for the firsttime, not from another character, expositioning all over the face, right,right, they're learning as they're, reacting to the world and they'rereacting to it in organic ways yeah. So you feel a much bigger connection tothat person as Youre like Oh yeah. If I was in the situation, I had no odyWha's going on either on yeah and your intrigued, like I want to know, what'sgoing to happen next, so in that respect, I think it works really wellyeah. I just think it was. It was a hard movie to Faloh Yeah. Anybody whogoes and watches this for the first time definitely recommend it won'tspoil anything, look up a video t that just talks about how the videois t howthe movie is told and that way, you'll at least understand. Okay, the blackand white videos are moving forward in time from the beginning of the movie tothe middle of the movie and the colored scenes are starting at the very end andslowly piece by pees going backwards. Yeah, so that that'll give you it's.Definitely whatever you need. Ass HRIMER, which is another movie, that'sreally hard to follow. U We're not talking about time travel. We need totime travel o the SU, but Rou do that in we'll get around it. ITI'll getready an these other in the movies speakiing of speaking of next movie,the Prestige. Oh Great, so I thought the Brestige was quite a good movie.Okay, prestigue spoierr spoilers for prestige. I thought the whole clonething was way out of left field really really because at least as far as Iremember, they hint Ed there being some somethingmysterious and something that Nichla tess is doing and and that it's likeit's not magic it'. Some some technology thinkhe, has and then plythat it's a teleporter yeah. I think, if I' remember, coecly imply that hehas a teleborder well and in it turns out he's just transferringconsciousness to a body, and he just has a bunch of clothes. That was like alittle weird for me. I didn't, if that thatdid I mean it made sense with the plot lessure, it solved the puzzle, but itwasn't for me. I didn't feel like it was really that satisfactory. I thinkwhat he's trying to get to was that he, this Guy Hu Jackman's character, wasobsessing so much over this thing that he was willing to go to such a darkplace and he had to discover okay. How do we get to this dark place? That alsogives him success in making this trick right and it became he became a Massimurderer and eself yeah of him. So it's IAND. He Talk O ne talk about theconcens in his in his journals, which are kind of like audibly, told to theaudience pretty much the whole movie, which is an interesting way to tell astory. Actually, I think, was really good and he talks about the Dlema ofsaying every time I come out there. I don't know which one I'm going to be, but he always leaves a gun for the onethat drops that, like that dropped in the at first at first, is what he does.He leaves a gun right next to himself so that when the new comn POPs up ashoots him and he sits there and he's breathing Heavilyn hes like what in theWorld Whal was that and Y Hou. But the thing is you honestly, don't know whichone was the original Onein, I'm sure he died along the way and then the nextwinjerst came up and because it's a concept that doesn't like make awhole lot of sense. cloting yourself, you can't really understand it, but soHu Jackmin Popson is like who's this it's. I do agree that it didn't. It's notlike. The whole movies is about sorcery and dark nagic, and things like that.So it was a litlot. The the whole thing about the it's like it's about to driveto come up with the next big trick right and what lengths Youe going to doit, but then they just kind of introduce this whole field of weird tof weird, like cyber start, seen punk technology to explain the trick, as Ifeel like they could have, I mean I don't think it would have beensatisfactor theyr like. Oh, he found a witch in the wich. Resurrection isactually a corse like. I don't think that would have been satisfied foreither so, but but I think I like the ending, like the point of it being thatone person had the had the ability to perform this trick right and there'sthat scene earlier in the movie where Michael Cane who's Kindo like there.Why is it your cooking and my Michael Michael came the character he plays he's kind of like he's not like theirguide, but he's he works with you f Jackman in the movie, and he tells themboth hey, go and see this one magician, and you tell me how he does this onetrick. If you, if you could ever tell me how et does a Drinkin Nowi'll, giveyou whatever EA million dollar, because it's so amazing. It's this Chinese manand he's old and he hobbles around, and he just kind of like puts his cloakover over this desk in front of him and he moves it and there as this giantBoll Fish Bowl with a goldfish in it and they're all just like astonished,they'r like that, doesn't make any sense because their magicians as well,they know all the tricks you can do and that's just not one of like that's justnot a trick that anybody you can do and what Hug Jackman and Christian Balrealizes that he had to live his whole life. Like the trick, I mean the oldman, actually wasn't really an old man. He was, and he doesn't hobble aroundlike that. He walks like that, so that he can carry this giant fish bowl inbetween his legs and squeeze it there. While you know, while he walks aroundin this, you know in you know normal Southasian garb. I don't know what itwas hewas wearing some kind of so so he had to perform that as this whole trickhe's getting helped into his carriage like an old man afterwards and they're.Looking at him like this Isin like lit...

...he's literally performing constantly,and that is what Christian bail that jus on to and says. That's my true.That's going to be my trick because I live my entire life. Switching back andforth with my quote: Unquote, assistant who's, actually his twin brother rightand they keep switching back and forth to be. You know, like their main guy atthat, eventually becomes the greatest trick in the world, because nobodyknows the actually has a twin brother, and so it's done organically. It's thannaturally it's done. Like quote unquote the right yeah see that the twinbrother, I thought, was a good rerview, oh yeah, and, like I love his characterin the movie. Just because again, that's that's like dedication, hardwork, as opposed to selling your soul to the devil kind of t to just GEselling your soulder, the doubile would have made more sense than Niclatessleza witch. Well again it just like they kind ofset it up as though it was the normal universe. But then you're, like AnnNicolatessa, was doing some weird things with technology that we're likecloning thing, so at least they rap it in the idea that sure sure it scienceit's being tested and the person that's doing. I is kind of like yeah. This isweird w. We didn't really realize how we got here. It kind of just Clu, likehe's kind of even unsure. It's really just huge ackmines character, t a thatkind of delves into the technology, because, because even Nichlatessis likebury this thing like, if I had o give you any vice, burnit destroy it becauseit's Evil Ike, we don't really understand what it is: Ewe Kind ofstumble upon the technoogy doing something else: a Beheik, eenly,cloning, things yeah. The thing is like that, and that's that's a thing thatthat I feel like happen to Sience ficalikthy stumble on this crazytechnology, like it's too dangerous to the they're dangerous to Bei a gettingthere he's to dangerous to be dangerous, but the thing is like science: Berks issmall, increments generally, and if they had like to uncovered some arcanething like oh they're, Tappin Ito, some Eldrich God and they can't control it.And you know it's like or it's like the genie where he made a wish that hecould do this trickan. But the you know the the tradeoff is: He has to killhimself every time or something ser. I honestly think that would have drivedbetter than this technology, that kind of POPs up out of Noerbcaus that ifthey had, if they had indicated that O testwas build, you know like some crazystreet lamp or floating car, or something like that and establishedthat this is a universe where Nicola Tessla is some crazy inventor, but hethe problem is and again. I think I think if I can separate this yo theleap to get into the clone stuff, I think it works as like a charactermomentand. You know the implications of that, I think are really good sure. Butniklatesle is just straight up at Daya Sex Makana that just kind of magicallyappears makes the cloming device and then disappearce, I will say it wouldhave raised more red flags, had had had nisorry. Now you keep saying the name,Ne Clitessla, that's huge, Jackman's character, kind of just just quote:Unquote, like you said, stumbled across it, but his whole. I like the way thathis characteris developing is moving towards an idea of. I will go to anylengths to yeah. I get bi I AAN and you're, watching that develop over thecourse of I'm going here. I'm going here, I'm gonna E and I think that partworks yeah. I think that part works. I think it's just the endit's, like he'sdriven by this in San Tieto, quote unquote fineaway and he does eventuallystumble upon technology as Hittin somewhere, and that is a little it's.The strangest part of the whole movie, obviously it's the only part- that'stjus kind of supernatural and weird, but the idea that a person could lookhard enough and eventually get there like e e. They did a good job,developing dedeveloping him Indo a character that could potentially go andfind something. Bizarre live, has sur sure and and that's fine it. That's honestly, one of my only Greadtithat I thought it was a gooder Obe, just that kind of Nikela test as justlike what oes your wish by Bot think its a merited great, which it's youknow what and yeah again I don't know again. I don't know how would have doneit in a satisfactory way. I just think that was a little too easy, but anywayswe can because because again it was like it wasn't. Like E, you know LashNiklatessla to his ship and was like make this technology. For me, I just aNichol tessewas like hey. By the way I happened, t've been cloting guys like look in, I m pretty mindor Great Por.What was actually you know a solid movie so so just to Rechesh. Before wego in to the AX movie, what I said at the beginning about ways that thatChrist pernollan develops his movies, so he introduces the is that this ideaof the magic act there's three parts to me right act. He explains that in thebeginning, I can't remember the names of the first two, but I pretty muchit's like the it's like the reveal set up the set up. The review, like the setus on the set up the something in the p Yeas Ani to look it up for you keeptalking anyways. So he introduces this concept and later on in the movie thatessentially plays out with Christian balls character. Riar he he's presented. You know he is now likethe leading magician he embarrasses Hou Jackman. Then he is arrested foroujactings death, so he's taken away, and you think that that's the end ofthe movie- and you really think th t that was the build up. That was aclimax, but then oh Kno, like like, like the second t at you, think you'vegot it. You've missed it and all of a sudden he's revealed thiy at the endwith he prestige with you realize he's got a twin brother because he shows upthere at the end with you, Jackman and you're, like oh my gosh, I literallyjust watched Christian bald eye how coud this work, like I'm Soconye. Soit's the pledge, the purm and the stige...

...yeah. So you pledge by then said Youplaye by Conan yeah, showing something ordinary by saying this is this: is themagician and the? What was the second one? Second ones, the turn the tarksomething ordinary make coit do something extraordinary Yep, so youkill Christian bails character and the prestige, which is where you reveal that you'e still alive, but Ithink that the fact that, like that's, where Christoperallan actually becomesa part of the movie, because the movie itself is about these magicians andit's great acting and it's such a fun movie, but then Chrisoper Knollanhimself is also telling the story like it's a Magica which is just awesome andwe meanwe've already. This is already what we talked about in in pretty muchthe whole entire thing of Momento. We just talked about how he tells thestory as if he is somebody with memory loss right, he's telling it back rightand forwards, and so in both of these movies already you've seen that kind ofnolanesque like okay, I'm going to tell the story, but now I'm going to usethat story to tell the story Likh it right. It's insane right. So, let's move on we're not going to spendtoo much time on this, because we did talk about it during our Batman podcastbut o Gat entrology. I just again I would point to that as his directingprowess, because the visuals are stunning noh yeah and he managed tomake Batman feel like it could actually happen and then especially dark dyng. Ithink he does it in all three. I think darknic rises is probably the leastgood on this aspect, although it's fine right, but the way the the characters interactwith each other is especially joker and Batman. I think, is really whatsolidifies it as an excellent movie. So I think I honestly you know I like thewhole Pillagy, but I think you could watch dark night as a movie by itselfand well any three of them, maybe not darknar rises. That does kind ofpredicate on on the two previous ones yeah, but that maybe begins. Obviouslyit's the intra, but I think dark night works is a standal in film yeah. Ithink it's excellent stanil Il because again most people have face levelknowledge of whom Batman is sure. No, I do think, though, as far as like for me,it Batman, begins and dark night are kind of on the same plato and thenhonestly artall three of them. I can kind of love them in together, but if Ihad to pick up this savabol one that I like rewashing, it might be, Batmanbegins or dark na Muc. It sure they're. Both amazing. U thing I like aboutBatman begins is telling his back story. An a little more depth does a lot forthe character moving forward and usually like the story that we all knowabout. Batmans beginning is okay. His parents get shot and becomes BatmanRight, but this one doesn't really tell ut that way, sos his a parents get shotand he kind of like he kind of, doesn't know what he's doing with his life. Hethinks he kind of wants to go and kill this guy that killed his parents. He'sgot a lot of rage and vengeance, but ultimately he kind of gives up rightlike like he just he just like fleas the city, eother country, and hebecomes this criminal. He talks about starving at times he's just in jail,essentially fighting people just just because- and that makes way more sensefor somebody who spends their entire life wanting to see justice becausethey essentially thought nothing of their life prior to that right, asopposed to lots of times WHENL. You just start the Batman's story with okay,he was a kid. His parents got shot and that's what he wanted to do. You'relike like I'm sure he still has other things he wants to pursue in life, andthat's always that's always the the the tug with Thatman is all right. He wantsto live a normal life. He wants to be with this girl that he loves he wantsto do. You know like essentially have that, but he also wants to be Batmanand that's what he tustles with this one. Actually, in my opinion, made themost senseitiv the Batman movies that I've seen, because it gives him thiswhole elaborate beginning of saying this is this is really who he is andwhere he comes from. This is why he's so driven just to be like no, like I'vetried to live the normal life, and all I've wanted to do is just leave and andlike Itsiton, give up on life. This is the only thing that really gives melife and energy, and it's more. It's it's put as more of an obsession andlike almost an unhealthy thing, which is, it was just like a whole conceptand I was able to like you said, like latch on to that character and thinkthat he's real because I was like Oh, I could actually see this person thisindividual person having this much drive and wanting to be something yeat,crazy and- and I think Batman begins and dark night rises. Both flirted alittle bit with the outside of believable stuff with thes. You knowhow strong vene was and the whole. I put this nee race on how I can kackthrough concrete a like one, specific yeah Asot make ansejokerpher gas yea,which is it's not completely unreasonable, but it's like everyonereacts the way he wants Tose eract with which is not reasonable, Ri t Lut,that's I can get over that, and then this is okay use you ono the biggestbiggest biggest pot hole in the tirt night. Oh Yeah, aliht! Sorry, I betTatmin begins so they're dumping it into the water supply for like weeksright, and it only activates when it when it gets gasified right Huh. So noone boiled water made spaghetti took a hot shower like nobody theres, not justlike the guy down the e eating, his wife and you're like hey red flag.What's going on like you know, maybe that's why it s sograming literallyknowon showers. No one has not watered...

...also like what's the point of dumpingit into the water supply for weeks like wouldn't it ou have just cycled throughby now and also be out into the ocean again like like why not just yetit athat was like that was a dumb plot point, but again doesn't Rul the movie.It's just like you know. That was the biggest stretch I think in theinvetmentsbut, but so those have so begins and rises have more fantasticalelements where I think tart nights, everything that happened with the withthe exception of maybe some of the Batmobile stuffbut. Even that you could,you could see being reasonable right. All of it is like that. Could that youknow, if you took out Batman, I could be watching the deparden m right so soto me. That's why Dark Knight is the best yeah, because it's it's not about the setting, it'sabout the play between the joker and Batman right or who are very wellrealized, Christian, bailed to less extent like. But you know, Heath Ledgerreally steals the show sure, but it really is about that play that tensionbetween joker and Batman, how far batmins willing to go and then haveHarvey Dent who's like willing to go ya so far, but then he gets pushed overthe edge and yeah. I think Dartner really really works for me in a lot ofhat yeah. No, I think that specific element of using dent to show really toshow how how much it takes to be Thatman,because you have Batman going okay. Somebody else out there has to havethis drive that I have to not become corrupt, but to be as hard nose as youneed to be toput these criminals in line and he's like Oh didn't, has itdidn't? Has it didn't? Has it didn't? Has it didn't, doesn't a no he's pushedowith, the adge and so he's like that's? It has to be me, like. I can't givethis up, because nobody can take this mantle, I'm the only one that has againlooking back at that, but Wat, I'm the only one that has this past. That hasturned him into the person that I am now, which literally says I'm going tobe as hard as I possibly can, without turning into them, I'm going to pumpright up against that line and Althouh again the kind of similar problem withthe with the Arcum Gamesi, like some of those tugs, a definitely dead, yeahyeah know the Archim Games are hilarioushere. It's like you have topunch them. Seventy five time like seventy to this guys e OE esthe forstdefender, is the Batmobile Onecaus. It's like, Oh, no, it tases them. Theygo like walkiing off into the guy. Like you know, you can be like a twenty MilePrhour car crash and get herminent back damage go you're going to like seventozandhour. That person is jelly like hi literally evaporated anyways. Let's move on for backanenception, I love Itte enception in my opinion,was, was the perfect mix of understandable and enjoyable enough atthe time, but still had so much payoff to watch it the TIRND. Fourth Time Yeah.I think I think I think it was te peak of this is a highbrowt like a highconcept, film yeah, Butt Digestible to everyone, because it had really coolvisuals and they explained enough about right concept that you could you? Couldyou COELD, okay, they're, diving into dreams or diving to drugs? It got alittle silly like when they're like three deem dreams down and then likethe bottom is purgator that that got a little weird and they did explain it,but it yea like. So I think that there's so there's often I wouldn'tcall it a lazy way of directing it's. Just a is a used very often way ofdirecting and telling a story yeah common. There you go where, in order toexplain a concept, you introduce a character that doesn't know thatconcept. So you have your main carater. I explain it to that character who arein turn? You get to sit there and explain you reality they're, explainingit to you, yeah Youan, through this new character, and so it uses this thiskind of a common concept which is funny just because I think nolane usuallytries to go for for really bizarre ways to tell his stories to reveal himself.But this way I think it was such a far fetched idea that he said we need to dothis at the bear bones like yeah somebody's going to walk in have noidea what it is and we're going to spend a lot of time with, just, likewit, just you know, yeah he had the outsit had basically explain evereverything how it worked, but e did it in a way that that again, it is kind of a an easy way out is tojust have someone who knows nothing and then have a character. Explaineverything to them, which usually goes along. The lines of two characters aretalking. One says we got a due dididit and then the third person who id he'sin Fimiliar, so what's did it? I A EXA, a she doe yeah. I thought that the waythey did it was she's, this kind of person right and so they're onboardingher into this kind of the Seker orization thing, so she's gettingseshe's y tree speech. Now what it? What is it called when you're juststarting out an an organ interview? You know like when you're just starting onO ormuzation they're, getting you hea walk through likegetting te tour yeah, no like liketyouour initial training. What do you call that my brain, my brain melted, myGuy Athin seption? We can get ouof that it's Gonta come up like ten minutes inten minutes, but but but you know they did that and they kind of show herfoblonds level almost like t what morphus does with you in the matricright? They kind of take them into the shauoes level right and explain things,and then he kind of goes off on you and if you do this, but but that's honestly,like he just kind of starts rambling...

...and she's, just like what I justintroduced me to level one which I think is reasonable. So I thought itwas thought I was the most organic way of doing that Inorganic Story. Telin, Ino no. I agree. It was much needed and it was done in a good way. I' love theidea of like of dreams, obviously just because that's something that everybodycan connect, you everybody's thought a lot about if you've constantly thought.Oh man like lucid dreaming is such a cool idea. You know a lot of people aresaying you know I have lucid dream or I know how to do it or it'ssome. I'veexperienced lucid dream once where I was in the dream and just had a fullunderstanding that was in a dream and er full control of what was going on,and it's such a cool feeling in the idea oflike. Oh, we can ontrol that it's like ah like it doesn't even seem, likenecessarily that far fetch yea an idea like hey it's just a sere in that putsyou to sleep, and this allows your brain funttions to do xy andc to dothings that you've already experiened a lot being in a dream and all like thenuances of being in a dream. Like you never know when it starts, you alwaysjust think that you've been there forever and that's what he has o tellher like hey like. Do me a favor? How do we get here and she's like Oh yeah,we walk from the and then we wait and then so she has to like. She doesn'teven realize that she was intered into a dream, just how we are when we're inthe dream. Don't necessarily recognize o right away my mind, deing forthe, forthe dream worold, which obviously understand why they did it. The way hedid it m everything in the dream is too normal, like dreams, but their control.dring sure sure I understand that, but like th, the architecture of the dreamis not the architecture of the dream. Fine,because because they do have it like, oh you walk one Blocki tracturysuddenly like on a beach or whatever right. That's fine that made that'sdream. LOUGIC, yeah, but dream logic is not there. Normal people with Lomalcars, drem logic is these cars are flying and you know, but I really weirdsurreal things can happen and I think the reason that he didn't do that isbecause you're o not not supposed to know whether it's a dream or not well,and also he talks about the concept and again this is this is a greeted fakeconcept in surfershp Ook, but the way he explains it is that the closer youstart to realize it's a dream. The more bizarre you're subconscious startsacting and that's when the dream does get kind of wacky and weird, and you dohave like trains driving through the middle of the dream, Doong the streetright right. U That's not like Igan know. I do. I obviously know talk aboutit as somebody. That's like really weird surreal. Jesy, like I'm doing mytaxes and then like an aliens, are like dude. Why are you doing your taxes?We're trying to play Chestli that sort ition with like it like a Moose andyou're, just like o yeah, and you O, like every other person, is notbrearing pants and you just like it, but but you act like its solly normal,because it doesn't bother because you're in a dream right. So so it istrue that their dream concept is essentially we're just going into anormal world, but it's like we're going to call it ririn right and that s. Thatwould be my my one ding yeah I like by to go again. They kind of hadto do that because they want to have you question whether certain things aredreamed or not, and if you're like well, there's a banana walking through thestreet. Probably a dream! No, and I just think it's cool to one.They introduce the idea, like Chrisopen all interviuces, the idea, so he getsessentially do whatever he wants of it, but the rules he decides to make forare so interesting and cool to where it's like dreams are much Lo andthey're all things that are like close enough to reality, like I enter like Isaid before, don't really know how you arrived at, where you're at the dreamsare longer than normal world world, and so essentially the deeper they go thelonger period of time they get while they're walking around again. This isall in their heads, but they're all walking around and they get so muchtime the deeper and the deeper that they go that all like you can kind offollow along, but yet he's making those rules himself, and so I jus think hehad a good job kind of leading the audience along yea those concepts inthose ideas I did like we haven't touched on thisyet, but Hon Zimmer is essentially his like go to Oh yea for all of his AIS,and so I love thia great sounddrack when he ruined movie trailers forever,like like his like he, the song time in that it's like you know, it'scompletely overused. Now it's not SM. Yes, it is. It's such an amazing song.It's a little overused in like motivational speeches now, because it'sa very like pump up song, but such an incredible song and, like I think,Soundtrek. This is like the first movie, where the soundjrack really started tohelp his movies along because it continues to be kind of like knockingout of the park with most movies. He makes after this with Han Zimmer yeahand I thought I' Sesi was a good movie. Now I did think t did you. Did you seethe South Park where they were making phone onception? No, so basically likethey're doing inception right, and so there are people like standing inthe room where the people are dreaming M and they keep like having go layersand layers down. But these this Piezza guybox in he's, like hey, did anyonewith pizza and the the guys who in the room like no. Maybe it was one of themand so Phese guys, like I'm, going ind take jobs and INSEP himself into thedream delivering a pizza. I thought it was pretty funny all right.Let's move on Wedide Gothisis, a terrible idea we gotim or to now now we're moving into the ones that I haven't seen so there threethe t e next three movies. I have not watched okay, inner scellar Youven seenour steller Nah. So I honestly thought...

...it looked kind of boring, but that'sthe thing it doesn't even matter it's Chrisper noon and it's Hans Zimmor gowatch it like see. Let' see that I'm not on that train. I want to watch amovie that I find intriguing and Youa find super long. Space travel is notintriguing, you like Star Wars and start Trak yeah, but there are aliensand fights in that Isa. The Lo Brow. I need action. I needMichael Day diright my face. Well, there Alwo tell you there are some ofthe most intense scenes in movies. In my opinion, in that in that movie so,okay. Well, then, let me talk on it a little bit and end up Tryi, not tospoil it m o ahead. I know I know about the library the live Barby, the test,Ractin, the Libbar beausthe the past, the time, traveling, library, okay,something that I really love about this movie is the starting a and I'vetotally forgotten about it. Until I watched it recently- and I remembered Iwas like oh my gosh, like I totally forgot this o the movie starts- Themovie starts with a bunch of people essentially talking about how life waswhen the world was ending, like a documentary- and I totally forgot aboutthat little thing that introduced wer there all and it's all these old people,and it's so authentic, like that, you swear you're like these reallyinterviews with people like and they're sitting there they're, like, I rememberwe'd always you know, have to turn our cups upside down because the dust hadcome in and- and you know, we'd have to o I'd go out in the morning and thenyou, you couldn't see the sun because Bo and like it's it's like kind ofshowing those clips over. You know this farming scene where he's starting outwith his with his family on the farm. It's such like a slow, subtle movie. Ilove it so much. Okay, like one hundred I don't know to say, a hundred percent,if Han Zimmeris thiis my favorite soundjrack, maybe of all time it's hardto say, like the Lord of the Rings or Star Wars, one of those epic ones isn'tbetter, but as far as te stand alone movies, it's in my opinion, thegreatest down drack of all time, so hanzimmer has told one thing he's toldHey: this is a movie about a dad and his which actually isn't even truebecause later it turns out to be a daughter if they change it to Murph themain, the main girl character, his daughter and so Han Zimmer starts.Writing Music. That's just it's like the whole story. Behind the music isjust a connection between a father and a son or father and a daughter and he'sdoing it, and he knows it's going to be in space, and so he decides. Okay, Iwant to use organs. So what they do is they go and they tothe largest oldest setup. You call him e set of organs, largest oldest organs,Gess in the world. It is this super gigantic old church and they get againlike one of the best organ players in the world to come and they set up mikeseverywhere and that's where it's recorded from hi EA. He literally it'shis organist playing the music that Hansima Wrigtsen and it is the mostincredible music you ever heard in. I just can't. I can't wrap my head aroundhow honzimmer comes up with that music, noteven knowing the movie and just getting a concept of an idea saying: okay, it'sabout a father and a son, and he writes this music. That's so wiincredible shes,it's like and I mean, and that that underlining soft organ playing and at times reallyintense organ playing. Is it just it's just pepper throughout the entire movieit'Samazing points that just you R, I don't know it like it's one of myfavorite movies. Ever I love interstellar and the acting isobviously great. You have you have timid Timothy Chalomane, the little kidand he's in it for a little bit, okayhe's kind of like the new up andcoming young kid actor. I'm trying to think of things he's played he put inthat one really weird movie, where Oh, that's Iokay, where, like the like, thefifteen year old gay kid like like, like a one one best movie whatever itwas figting call me by my name or something like that. I Don' Wan Elev, Iareiwhere he like he like asex of the peach yeah. I watch comedies andMaxokin. You've never heard of that scene, though that was like those justkind of like a Hurd American Pie. Okay, no, it's not even a comedy scene yeahlike it's like a weirdly, intimate like it Kay. I didn't like the movie at all,but he's the bikin hat acts in that ANYWAYPEC. I don't want to watch theokay, so the concept of interstellar is anotherone of those okay, you're talking about time, travel you're talking aboutharvest, ING gravity, but it doesn't younoaitsense. I don't even know ifthey they call it harvesting gravity, but basically a way to manipulategravity and that's how they built their spaceships. But they do it in such a way that thatthat somehow scenes believable. It's obviously not just like batmanners whicyou're, just like Bayn isn't, but it's like at least the characters. The movielike you believe that they believe it. You believe that it's all that, likeyou, believe that that you believe talking about like like time runningdifferently when you get close to a black hole and you, when you come backout of a black hole like scenes where they go down to the planet and comeback and the people up in tha ship Ov age, thirty years, but they haven'tated at all him having to interact with his kids as they age. You know severalyou know decades and Ho. He has an age at all to thepoint where he meets his daughter at the end and she's hold o dying and he'sstill young and anyways. Just just the...

...idea of those ideas. T concepts of timetravel just seem very believable, I would say the biggest point again I'lltouch on it again is th. The soundtrack is just amazing. If you just listen tothe innerstellar soundtrack all day, it wouldn't be a wasted day, go and watch that movie in like fourkon a huge TV with a sound turn all the way up and I'll blow your mind, such a good movie, that's another onewhere yeah that's. Why were I feel like you're supposed to watch it and I'm axlike yeah? It's designed for an IMX experience, Oh yeah! No and again it's the same nolanesque ideaof of introducing the idea of being able to like the time being,manipulated like in faster certain places in slow other other places andtelling them movie. That way. Just an incredible be love inersteller I plugit. I know it's got a weird ending, just accept endings, weird, never anyways, but yeah. You have to see itto. We got to watch that together, sometime Kay force, you tog all right,two more movies. Okay, this one, I doubt, will talk about too long, Dun,Kird Dunker, you seen it nop os in no, when you se it I don t I haven't seenanydiorsity, so dunkirt is definitely one hundred percent, and I didn't usethis an example just because it's really not one of my favorites of hiswhen we 're talking about movies that you don't get the first time earlier.What's not to get it's an historical invent. Well, that's that this is whatI'm so again: spoilish Forduncor at least theway that storyis told so the story is told like this try to follow. Okay, soit starts off W th with a group of people that are on a beach, and this isthe story of Dunker. This is his tri of it and it an for them. This is acrossacross seven days or ten days. I believe that that's what it announcesat the beginnings is this. Is this is day one of this and it starts billingthem. Then it films, people in boats on the other side that are citizens thateventually go that's the story of Dunkark. Is that a bunch of citizens?He ended up just traveling with their normal boats across Teycrosse the seayeah the channel. To pick up, however, how ever many thousands and thousandsof soldiers d get them back home right because they were literally strandedthere and they're getting killed right and so like. So it was what's his name whos the famous dudethere like the leader. What's his name Hitler? No, the guy in England, church,Churchi Yeah! So that's when churchills did the announcement to for citizens ae thought he was crazy and n millions or, however, many thousand citizenswent over anyways. So it's filming the citizens with their boats and that oneis over the course of one day. Okay he' fallen, so it's one week, one day andthen there are fighter pilots that it's over the course of one hour. I believe,but it's splicing back and forth, like a normal movie woold between differentpeople happening, but the time frames are all off that makes sense and soyeah. So the people be leaving the beach. You know the soldiers willfinally be getting picked up from the beach by these citizens, and then you flipover to the citizens and they haven't even left yet and the fighter. Pilotsare shooting planes down, and then it flips the fiter piets they haven'tgotten their planes. Yet so it's really bizarre and like it was one of thosewhere I was like no on. You could have just told this in a normalorderlesosing fashion and it would have been fine. Historical reenactment makesno sense to do the weird time thing with, because you know what happensyou're just going into there to kind of to feel like you were there right. Soif you mess with the timeline and mess with the perspective, it was hard toget in. It was really hard to follow again, and this is like I don't evenlike to plug it when this is the case. But again I watched it a second timeand I thought it was awesome. I still don't think it gives it enoughmerit to be like hey. This is great, I think it's a bummer and it's a bad jobby nolone to make a movie that you can't understand the first time becauseit is actually when it's like. We literally know what happened, becausethat happened and it'sand the story is good and it's and it's exciting. It'ssuspenseful. The characters are really interesting. Tha that he introduces Tomhardys is the fighter pilots, s he's excellent and y. We are gonna talk withthat and he talks like that, because it's Gor Aru oobut, basically thescenes that they filmed from the cockpit of that Fiher Pat, are like, I believe they were actually filmedfrom. There was something to do with Hus Fein, like I, his totally forgot. Iwish I had this knowledge at front like Funtalqartex here ready to justregurgedate, but there was something about the way that they filmed thefighter pilot scenes that were like the most some of the most authenticfilming styles. You could ever film and it really did come across if youwatched those scenes and it just felt like you were in a an old school, youknow dog fight. It was really really cool. Did the the movie excellent, butyou just can't follow the story. The first time you watch it. He won't beable to like that O. I I will SII still didn't get the second time, but I wasable to piece together and so probably better to go watch what was N and ninehundred d. ten ninete Ti is lixlen following the two guys, the whole waythrough sineeens Sdninehune d, ND,...

...eiehteen, nine evntene, thouandnineHundre, a VN Nethouand, nine hundre, nd eventy e, but is shot as one take right:Yeah, nine, even teens, excellent, really real! So, but that's one whereyou can do something: sort of unique right to be genre and but you're drawninto the story of Thi Man Ya. My opinion done much better than dunkeryeah yeah Dun Kirk was again I hate to say it. It was good. It was really good.The second time you watch it, but it's just it's just aweful the first inbummer a Al right last, one tennit Tanet. Did you seen it? No, and I don'treally care? Okay, okay, so okay, so this is. This. Is Me like just came outyeah, so spoilers edbl O, if your play go, see it just iye, really, not yeah,don't don't bother listening if you are like Le Come back and listen this afteryou see it, it's worth like you, ow you're, going to want to like you'regoing to be scrapping for anybody o tell you anything after you go out tothat movie because it's hits insane all right so officially going to spoil Donto it now yeahe. So I just I don't know. I watched the trailr and I was like Ihad no interest in watching movie, so you know how I described Momento being like a u yeah, so youhave your right hand. In your left hand, holding two ends of of the same Folm,noodle and you're, going at the same time, fr m on the from the right handand the left hand at the same time, up so you're bouncing back and forthbetween the end of the movie and the beginning of the movie back forth, backforh back forth back forth, and you end at the middle of the? U, which is themiddle of the Movien, that's where the movie IDs right. This movie is the sameconcept. You pull that you down, but you just start with your left Han andyou go up and then it goes all the way back down to your right hand. So itgets to the middle of the movie, which is the end of the movie, and then youwatch the movie backwards yeah. So again, wethis is one that I know the leastabout, because I've only seen it once and I don't really like to just watch abunch of youtubers. Explain it to me. I like to bee the Youtuber that explainsit to people and so at first. This is this is how you'rewatching the movie there's there's some really shady things going on. You hearreally quickly: It's not a not a long inception! Stytle. Let's explain thisto you. It's like a crash course by the way, there's things that are ent erinverted that are keep coming back through time. We don't know where theycome from, but they're like bullets and little pieces of ATS. Just like thetime stream is messed up, yes, and- and it's really weird- I still don'tquite understand how people moving forward in time can still interact withthe inverted objects so like they could still pick ap bullets and essentially essentially like just hold their handover the bullet and think that they just dropped the bullet. And then thebullet would come into their hand, yeah s. What and and if there were, if thereare like f they shot those bullets into into a wall. They could pull out theinverted gun, point them and pull the trigger in the bullets ar each comingback into the gun, and so this is the first time you're introduced to thatidea and you're like oh man. I still don't get it. I still completely lost,so you continue to watch the movie and you slowly start to realize that thereare inverted people that are like sprinting backwards and like they'refighting people, but you can tell all their movements are really bizarrebecause they're moving backwards. So it's TNO, like an inverted world,that's fighting with the real world. So so this is. This is what happenseventually. It obviously has to do with time travel in a way, but it actuallyin this is this is where, once I figured this part out of the movie andagain it's annoying that I I'd figure it out. You know three three quartersof the way through the movie that I was like. Oh that's what they're doing thatis really cool. I wish I would have known that for the beginning. So whatthey do is they take the e the concept of time travel as an actual physicaltravel right, which means you go through time and now you're,essentially imagn. Imagine like a vhs and all of a sudden it stopped and itstarted rewinding. So now you still have to stand there while time rewindsand you can actually interact with things that are rewinding in time. Sofor you for you that it just that, you just did that and you click that buttonand time is now rewinding. Every everybody looks obviously like they'rewalking backwards, you're witnessing time to go backwards, but theyrewitnessing you move forward so to them you're movingbackwards, and so so y you're as a movie viewer. You are watching it onceforward to where you see a few people moving backwards and looking reallyawkward, and then you realize once they go through this, this device thatinverts them now now time is rolling backwards and they're still movingforwards, but everything else that you saw just a second ago is movingbackwards. So so, what's the main issue of the movie, so the main this- andthis is one of the biggest- I already mentioned a few qualms that I had withit. But this is one of the biggest problems I have with. It was the main you gon think of joking, the mainproblem, like the main B like bad guy, the movie is going to kill the wholeworld. That's Ityeahby, I youre Goin to goback in time and kill the the first temo a so O. Basically, they justshoved a whole lot of buzz words into one sentence and said, and that'salhey's going to do it no literally like so me. I watch thiswith John Boney, a friend of as and we just kept joking about like. Oh, wefigured it out. What you have to do is...

...you have to take the dead drop it afteryou invert it you get there and once it going backwards, you get back into theinversion, and then you drop the dead drop into the zone where you wereinverted in the first place, but you have to be going backwards and likethat was like you have to de Mon wo. Yet that was the worry, my canwethe toyou with why so, basically awas his motivation for destroying e Lit. So hiswhole thing is that he is just. He is the first one to discover that you caninvert things it had to do with Trinoble like like he's a Russian guyand with all like the Rato Rad, raation and stuff. He realized that someobjects were were fidgeting and moving backwards and times that, if e, becauseof your nobale or like your knowwhat happened because of ban inverted thin,so no o because of trenoble certain devices, he was able to harness somekind of inversion to where he realized. If I put something in this device, itnow was traveling back in time, and then he eventually built these ways totravel back in time completely. So He's been doing this pretty much forever,and this is why he is just like multi Zilianair just does whatever he wantshe's, always TBE TEP steps ahead of Everybeddy, because he just invertshe's like his team- is constantly moving. Inverted next to him. So he'sconstantly got people that have already seen the future, essentially protectinghim kind of a really hard concept like again it doesn't make a whole lot ofsense, but so he's he knows he's going to die like like he's dying soon. Ican't remember why, but I think he's got like a hard bro and his tinkit wasTu. Noble is probabl. We can yeah. I would imagine- and so his whole thingis that an this is a really weak premise. If he can't have it, hedoesn't want anybody to, and you kind of got to kill the world because he'sgoing to die. Yes, that's so weak, so hes. Basically he has these devicesthat if he puts them in again that whole word salad that I said then it'llit'll the whole world will collapse literally like at the beginning, he'slike Oh. What are we talking about nuclear holocausts and they're likeworse and I', like wait worse and I'm like come on Christopherndalln? What are you talking about and it't's like the whole world is going to below? I don'tthink they use the word blow up, but essentially that's what's going tohappen. It's going to hold o inplode and just die, and so they'reessentially trying to figure out. How do you get to this? Guy Whos can seethe future, but and and it's just a few cool things about it on theinverted scenes you have inverted music, really interesting, music so and itdoesn't just sound like like dunk like coming out of your years,if youod imagine inverted backwards, music, it's like this music wasdesigned to be played backward so that whole concept pretty neat. They the whole idea that they havethese teams and these these special force units that are trained at doingthings inverted, is a really cool idea, because they have two teams that- andthis is again they have a this ct in the movie when t they're going to maketheir final like run. To get this like one device that he's going to put inthe in an the Guffin to blow out the world, they try to steal it and they'reexplaining like their strike team. What they're going to do- and it's like Iwish I could have understood anything he was saying, but I understood none ofit, and then I watched it all play U and I'm like I. This is just this isjust g like there's just nonsense happening, there's half the half thesquad is moving forward. Half the squat is just finished the mission movingbackwards and so you're like so one squad had togo through it. Knowing that the next squad was going to go through itafterwards and then they inverted themselves at came backwards through soso it's the concept, in my opinion, was too big to make a movie off of likeit's just maybe I'll watch it the second time andbe like that was genius. But in my opinion it's just it's just not. It wasjust too much and again the idea that that is how you would time travel kindof interesting, the primis being that, like like, like the whole, the biggestpotpoint being that this guy is just kind of like he just has this thingthat he doesn't want them, people to have what he can't have, and so hewants to kill. The whole world is stupid. That was a silly way to do it. I don't know if it's because I saw itin feeters like as, like. You know a special edition cut because it kind ofID come out. Sup Er certain places that hadn't come out of their places when Isaw it, but there was really choppy cutting in t with and for the Lamanwhen awe wea e talk about editing being por in a movie. What that refersto is the way that that scenes are cut together. So, for instance, if if youwere filming, if you're seing me in the thing you'r right now, you'd see melooking across the table at Nathaniel. We both have speakers in our face.We're talking into microphones is doing our podcast. Now, if I wanted to fillnathaniel I'd go over my shoulder, so you could see me in the foreground andyou'd see Nathaniel talking in the background. That would be the main shutand then it would constantly flip back and forth over nathaniar shoulder overmy shoulder, OFAN Nathaniel shouder, as we had a conversation now obviouslykind of elementary key things to make sure of is like, let's make sure I'mnot picking my nose and then the next scene, when it flips over in nethaniorshoulder my hands are by my side, because those are big enough thingsthat, when you edit them together, although the audio is going to soundgood, then conversationwill sound fine. You can clearly tell all this isanother take. This is at the same take and it draws the audience out of themoment. So this is a really basic thing that even at my level of filmmaking, Ihave to pay great attention to...

...here was like an entire dinner scenebetween the main character and the main female character. That was justhorrendous. Like every other sceme was like, I thought they were like doing iton purpose like he's like dancing an whot of en it cuts back and hejuscompletely stopped he's taking me a sip of water and I'm like man. I couldn'tfollow, and that was one of the biggest points. Maybe that's Whyr, I missedmost the information, but considering that everybody else that watched themovie with me was also lost. I'm assuming I didn't miss anything thatwas really exorable. So, according to this article, by on CBR, he did have paintcreaddic cancer. Therewo he was working for a group from the future called the descendants that wastrying to wipe of the past, apparently because to stop climate change, Ohthey're, basing it on this one line. He says: Ta Ther Oceans rose an the riverfan dry ohis that it you see. This is something a maybe if I watched thesecond time overgotten that wasn't harked on very hard. Looking for theAlgorithm and Oh yeah oer this article they're likethis is his master plan and they don't actually explain well how the alorithmis helping riht, it's like completely inverts time so yeah. The Algorithmessentially is the thing that would bellow up the world like I in in theway that thatworks is, you know xyanc. I D I don't know like I like it.Inverts, like o half UF the worth and the other half of her doesn't getinverse, so it blows up anyways, but essentially that algorithm, which againI don't know where they type that into or what they do with it. If that's like,if that's a if the algorithm is just a laungtude, matitude location on theEarth, I don't even know- and I watched the movie it was that bizarre, butagain if they were, if they were talking about why he was doing it asbeing a different motive. That would give a little more merit to the movie.But again, if you just watch it the first time without analyzing it thatdeeply, I think you're going to be left where I was left. I analyzze movies,Pretty de deeply when I watched them and I still wasn't able to get to get. You know, climate change that might have beenlike a throwaway line like oh there, oceans like and it might be kind ofyeah. It seems like it seems, like the conceit of the film, was you're not supposed to understand it.What do you see the coup so this? This? Is this is what what I pointed out asmaybe what noone was trying to do? No, no! No try to try to get with me. EreSo introduces the concept again. This is Nolan introducing an concept againand then I think what he's doing is he's wanting to also tell the story inthat way. So he wants to introduce the concept of like okay you're going tohave to go through life like in time this way, and then, when you go back intime, you're going to essentially have to physically travel back in time,while, while time travels in front of you and you see the people goingbackwards, so when he tells a story, I don't necessarily like, like the thingthey keep repeating in the movie is ignorance is ar ammunition, which is a really kind of bizarre linebecause they're like Oh, like what are we supposed to do when you get thereand they're like well, you'll know when you get there, because the whole ideais once you get there. You'll have more knowledge and then you'll be going backin the future and you'll be. If that makes any sense, it's likethey're going to be getting information that they don't have yet in time, butthat they know, because they've interacted with themselves in thefuture that they'll have that information later question mark. So I think the way he's telling themovie is in that same form of ignorance is ammunition. You don't really knowwhat's going on, but hey you're going to be able to enjoy this. If you justkeep watching it'll make sense by the end, it did make more sense by the end,but I think it failed as far as I was still wasn't able to enjoy it becausethat whole beginning part, I'm like what's happening. What is going on he'sbackward, so wha owo you if you need a clitch nus to enjoy the movie the firsttime you watsh it it didn't, do the best job, yeas Directiti. I shouldn'thave to watch a movie twice to enjoy in right. First Time, right and again, Ithink that might have been what he was trying to do, because this is a commonthing that Nolan does were e inroduces the concept and says hey. I want tofilm in that way, Yeah. I think he might have tried to say. Ignorance isour ammunition here we're going to give the audience very little informationand by the end it will make sense. The mission will be completed. Our missionof making a good movie will be completed by the end. I just think itwasn't all that great andless, unless maybe maybe, if you do get it the firsttime, thenhin good for you and you're going to love it. Sorry, I have a giantspace brain. I did tell people that I was like. It seems like a movie that,unfortunately, after I watched the second or third time, I'm probablygoing to really like, but I just get so angry when they don't allow me to enjoythe first time. I think it's poor moviemaking, so at wasn't my favoritemovie, but I still love Christp, an one all right so that that bringss up tohis latest movie. So let's talk about similar directors and directors thathave similar style like on the survace l. ltell you what I mean in just a second, so I would say directors that on thesurface might seem similar, I would say, and don't laugh or cut me off, becauseI need to explain it our Zach, Snider and Michael Bay, because both I didn want thing sangbecause both do you know the very kind of visually arresting thing snyder,with kind of generally the like the bright collar contrasts and thespeeding of slowing down, which is so...

...teenious after a while in Likc Day withthe infinite explosions and movies. But what the hat I think thats moll apartfrom them, is that Michael Banzacx sminer stop there there's like ellet's visuallyinteresting, which again there's the reason that, even though thetransformers movies are absolute trash, the unyen fi lots of dollars, they'refun. You know it's now SPECTAC WELL! Well, I think Thas is a reallyimportant part of movie making and there's a lot of things like Ike, it's hard to explain so so Ithink CGI is already a buzz word for people that really like movies. If youreally like movies- and you hear the word Cgiyou're constantly like ah likerolling your eyes but use too much of that- but that doesn't like CGI- can bebeautiful and like a really amazing way to tell stories like it can be done towhere you're not drawn out of thes situation at all trapping, obviouslythe over use of CGI or really mad CGI, and he we roller Iye. To that thereason I think why it's a Buzzword for us right now is because currentlythat's the thing that's getting overused. Now, when you look at MichaelBay and Zachneider, I think you're right they may and look at as a commonrecurring thing with their movies. So Michael Bay, the first transformovmovie, comes out. This is a movie about transformers. Okay. This is like thisis a cardoone. I never even got into I loved that first movie. I thought itwas so cool. The sounds that the transformers made the visuals of themturning into cars and things like the enjoyment of the comedy that wasintroduced. It's Schilebuff he's great. You know attractive girls, fast cars,it's just it's a really fun great movie. Then they just moved into Asinine justridiculousness, because because he's like, oh no, that's all I had they're asking for more like I don'thave anything else, so he just like more, let's just throw it in their baceand just more just like plug and PLAC Hir tecur. Okay. If the Robo like likejust random, I had girl random funny, word random, this random that and themovie just is just so dead and bland, but that in itself isn't a bad thing.You see, crisper Nollan uses spectacle of really exciting and intriguingdigital CGIFX and really big explosions and loud noises like inception, but healso provides all the other elements that make a really good move charactersand the intrigue and Yeah- and he does you know the interesting thing so likehis movies are all conceptually different M. I mean they all feel likeChristopher anoll movies, wet theyre, all thesehe's playing with differentconcepts in each movie. Right, where is Michael bases like explosions andmovies, yeah explosions and movies, and sex landers like is fast and slowarfast and slow there as ar ther, boobies and Michael, not Moobie's movies, butit's not like hon girls, yeah hot girls with Clevelandan Sheriotypical Ho, likehe's selling skin and explosions at's. What he selling and Zaxnire just hasactual movies. In, like three hundred and O yeahwatchman watchmen, you get BlueDong to Oh man, the Waby, the way vcgi blue dowl. Did you know he that Guy's?That guy's name is Greg Plitt and th? And he's like this workout enthusiastand it's funny in college. All me and all my buddies, O LD would do hisworkouts, he as really really good workouts, and he like. So we just dohis workouts in the gym and then I realized. Oh, they got great put to beto be the body devil. for Mr Fantastic. You know he wasn't the voice. Actually,he was the voice in certain scenes and when it wasn't a CGI guy, it wasactually greag put, and so it was like this. This, like you, know, guy that Idid all his workout sports, so I'm like, oh that makes sense, but also that'shis weaner, probably mad. It Look Pretty Seac Yeah. Hopefully that wasyeah. That was a se. Looked like a really CG weaner. It didn't swayrealistic anyway, etmovon yeah, I don't know if I even have a whole lotto say about directors that I think are like Noland. I don't really know, Ithink, he's extremely unique he's, probably the hardest to try to pin anather person to be. Like honestly, yeah. I think I think think someone I might compare him tonot in terms of style at all, but in terms of what he does would be WestAnderson CAS mest Anderson does different concepts, but they all havethat kind of Saing West Anderson flair to them sure which wes Sanderstonsplayer is much more visual right, whereas I think Nolan's players isabout the construction of the characters and and how to interact withthe world and the concept that he's working. I think that that's a goodpoint to say when you watch a West Anderson Movie. You know it's Westangerson right, like you watched thirty minutes of it, like West Anderson madethis movie like. I can just tell because it's like a book like thathow.He makes his movies with similar with Naon. I think it's funny because that'sI I've never been that Berse I've never watched a movie and not known it wasChrist Ralland. But I bet you. If I didn't know and Ju didn't know thedirector and a new we became at, I think I'd be able to Tel ass. Thehunsimmerstorcans like it's Er is none but yeah. I will saythat th that West Anderson is another one of those that has a very obviousmovie men. I think I think immit channel on back in the day used to belike that now he's kind of whack, unfortunately- and I really his earlymovies- are some of my favorite movies ever and so I was such a Yeah Sia,Shamalonan, apologist and Ho. I think I fhere so tha the decision that Nolanmade the created decision. Noan made...

...that Shamlan didn't his no one didn'tsay: Well, I'm the high concept guy. I do time travel right or I do this whereShaol was like I'm the guy who does the flist, yeah and so es be bigger intoyeah, bigger and so non was just like. That was a fun we list we on to acompletey, different fancen right right, so I think he'sand again, I don't thinkall of this movies have hit the same levels. I think they've all been good,but they haven't all hit the same El and sometimes you know like Dun, Kirkand tenant. You didn't. He went a litte you over ti jest. You just went, Ithink, he's playing on that line. I think that I think it's wine for him toplay on the one because he' shown when he succeeds really succeedbe in sureDaesn't. He still make something interesting well and I think that's theproblem with a lot of directors. Is You get all these like notsit at the park?Knock it out ofthe park because I mean witwith Butnolan, you had that whereyou had momento being the whole like wow, this guy really knows what he'sdoing. This is a really interesting concept, and then he breaks onto thescene with like prestige, inception intersteller and you like wow, knock stout of the Park Nicxt Sodt of the park. Next O of the part like these are.These are amazing movies and then I think, he's kind of getting lost. Nowin that world of of like Shamalan did where he had signs knocks out of thepark, he had six sente knocks out of the park. Unbreakable wasn't it wasbefore those actually was the first one, and that was more of like his Momentoand what's Thatot he did the village, which I love like up there with some ofhis favorites. But I know that's when he started to tape her off, buteventually, then he got to like lady in the water and then did like Abatar thelast air benter and erybody's like okay, get like give me a get out of my face:You're crazy didit the happening, and so I think Nolan could do that. Youknow he could. He could just get so lost in hi in himself like like, likeChamlan did where he just said. Okay, this is who I am I can. I can just makeanything. I want it's going to be gold and then you' like no. This is crazy.Like make a movie. That makes sense. Please don't cast yourself as a as aworld changing author, which is what Emma Jumbelon did lady in the water. Heplayed a writer that changes the world and I was like Ohdam that Shom on Ud b,let's be like that's o Laty Olt, Hey, I wel want to play a role in my movie asa video producer, who's. Amazing, you Greg Prinze. Yes, I do okay, old DRDI.You want your name to be Greg. Prins like a green yorger. Trebler NAM isYougo coboy and I'm the world s amazing video prouce. I mean that's kind of howit was it was, and that's where people ere like all right and MI show on thisis even hat greate movie yeah. I like lady in Te Water that was still when Iwas on the niht train of saying everything. U This Ne Guy Makes I loveyeah, but then eventually I was like he's going crazy and I hope that's notwhat happens in allone. I think, even when Nolane's movies aren't that goodthey're, not like the bad Mac sham on ones that are just like this is a badhoob in every way as o post the noon ones are like. This is hard tounderstand, and maybe the second and third time I watch it. I can't enjoy it,I'm disappointed. I couldn't watch it good, the first time yeah it takes itdown on a level in my head, but thet' still like you can tell he's well done,yeah yeah an, and I think they all have a asene of quality. You mentioned theediting intendant haven't seen is lik in commendhat. So maybe you know thatone didn't come together and again because of the time thing, maybe thatwasn't ontentionl sure, but all of his all of his movies look very good yeah,so they are at least visually satisfactory, even if you're like Bro,what the helm as that yeah. No, it's true. I don't think that he'll go offthe deep end obvous taking in renalds. I really hope he makes more more moreexorirable movies, a it seems like he and again I would you know, need haveto look at how the cast of the movies who have worked with him serfeal. Butyou know your Stanley cubricks. They were geniuses, but they were alsoinsane and hard to work with because they'ere like Heke, a hundred and fortyseven we're going to keep you until right and you have the products wereamazing, but at the same time is that ultimately worth it? If you'resacrificing, you know the lives of the people who are working for you right,so it seems like no one's kind of in the in the spot. Where he's he isstriving towards excellence, but he's not Ausing Co. People Husworking, I don'tthink he's losing his mind yeah. So so you know look forward. Wel, fororders next one o'way but watchhis career with GRAC, we'll watch your career with great interest. there. Yougo all right so her we so hey yeah letter, Wa, W thought of Nola movies.Sorry, we spoil them all for you. Hopefully you skip the ones o haven'tseen because they're worth seeing without US spoiling. I really do likeNafhaniels just weird that he likes movies being stoiled. So honestly, unless it's like a major plottwist, I don't really. We should watch INSEPTIO. I mean interseller sometimejust for the just the sick of the music, I'm going to watch it just the SAGTAyeah I mean like Etet, so yeah it. You know. Let us know what you think ofNolal movies. You think I's a good director. Bad Director, who do youthink is, has similar stylings an again. That doesn't necessarily mean like thislooks like an noll movie, Coul be feal or how the how it's directed and y? UKnow things like that, you can reach US duly debated atgmailcom or Sen, its a tweet, addduarly debated and hey. If you have the topicyou want us to discuss, you know let ut know sinter notbor. You can find me atHoly Golem. You can check out our CRAG...

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