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Dearly Debated

Episode 11 · 1 year ago

Episode 10 - WE'RE NOT WEARING HOCKEY PADS

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

We're talking about arguably the most popular superhero of all time: THE BATMAN! Nathanael is the night, Greg reveals his secret identity, and Moderator Jason adopts the dark!

Man, Wen you go or lately outnumberedhere. Are you not? You want to get nuts come on? Let's get 'cause, I just reada song about Oio Goin, O Boch Tar, Tiko, Tarkes tttick, O riiswelcometo Yothe, debated the show where you're entitled to your opinion, even if it'swrong on your host. No, no, no, no, no nonotAno, nothentetanual Levinson and I am Greg Woers oarvy friends, andI am vengeance. I am the night. I am Jada excellent so, as you might haveanticipated we'vegot a chosen our topic for the day, but before we get intothat, I actually once again lightning struck. I was in Pennsylvania and whenI got back this was on my desk. It's a memo from an ALTERNA Tomention Aso.This is what's been happning in Alternin dtomention. Peace wasofficially declared in the Middle East. If all parties gon common ground in thelove of Baxtry Boys, noted Philanthropost, momoved off Intoija,said our discussion was getting heeted. When Netnaa sphone went off and isringtom was I wanted that way? We all agreed there's no way we could hatepeople with such great taste and music. The twenty four hour Ra was held incelebration. George Lucas was nighted for his work on the Disney starwarscrilogy. After a rocky start, Luke has created the peerless Brequil Trillgren,which most people remember for the Lovabl Darth Chargar, the sequelthilodry somehow surpasses those films in every aspect. Eber called thiscalled them a falless cinematic masherbase. A particular note was themiddle movie directed by blue haired, wonder Robert prynz, the first scytheastounded viewers by its whoever Yon L. Mention of this hasterrible, I'm sorry, the first scythe astounded viewers with its cohesivnessand high quality there O go well he're welcome greg differnt dimensions. Hegoes by Robert, Oh, his name, ISO, all right. So today we are talkingabout we da that's so good allright we're talkingabout Thoug, one of he only probably probably the best superhero evercreated, Heis O son Sugr. He mighto that man Iabaan all right, so we'reGONTA, WE'RE gonna turn it over to Jason, Daniel Hes, arcomics experts andalso aue a moderator specifically that Ma also also the Matman experts yeah.You guys have listened to previous episodes. You may have noticed that twoout of my top five movies were badman movies, another one with Spiderman move we'llget into that lit, but I thir we could start off just really quickly. Umtalking about the history of Batman, eighty years old, as of last year, Gotyou first lesson: o Lan character, originally denued created byBob, can and bilfinker back N N Nineteen thirty nine Um shortly thereafter they introduce things like utility belt, batterings Robin debute,a couple of issues later, an a well tat May DETECTACOMC twenty seven by thirtyeight they had robin. I went off into a solo, serios joker catwoman appearedand for a fat man comic, and all that happened really really quickly kind offept the world by storm you know, and from there on out the character. Atthat point, the character was kind of dark and gritty. Like we see him today,e actually carried a gun, a lot of enemies were mpreceled by himor died pretty quickway ell. Remember we talked about the thevery very first edition, the first bat man was it the first aters of theDETECTIV COMIS one ries. These FUGO strage makes a bunch of haltingmonstrosity and so that man kills all of them. It's like it's better for themto die than to live like that. It's one of the early stories there's one wherehe like, hangs a guy from the bat plane, yeah monster from the Batlane Hewaslike well, it is what it is. I just iguess I remember so. I was goingthrough all the I say: Oh II'm, just Areadin Ainfoma number one and it wasfun it'sjust like th, just how comics were in the forties- and you know Iamon a very pulpy, merry burbose, yet very wordy lots of ridiculous thingshappening and lots of shock of them...

...going. Ah, an e speeling exposition wlthat's why Robin was actually great.They needed badman needed a Wanson to explain all of this man Totak to sto toand what all was going on up, thend all those great things, but yeah. It wasreally dark. To begin with, a joker was basically like a gangster but tbat mankind of just fought like colorful gangsters nd. I I also appreciate howUm in the dark night, he fledgers joker, actually references the original jokercaus. He had a very specific lap. He would laugh Haha he oho Youn, and sothere was a SS first sehowhe walks in s the first time you see O yes, first anjokes Werad, I just I just remember. I don't t like th,almost a hundred and- and there was like this m like a PSA announcements,telling kids did not do crime and it was an entire page of just singlesingles, Lind space text, Sti, all Otext, O Robnebandan being like listenup, kids, don't do drugs and go out and be criminals they're trying togetwhatwhat they deserved. I was just like a k. part of that was Um. Thecharacter like I I started out really dark m when Robin was introduced, iswhen thi kind of started softening him out and making it more of like atraditional superhero and that kept going until n nineteen. Fifty fourthere was a book published co Seduction of the innocent, basically glandcomicooks for all rines evil in the world. That was Wen, have a book aboutthat boo called the ten cent plage yes, which I haven't read yet so, butbasically that led to the formation of the commes cod authority and that's whynineteen fifty nineteen sixties Badman went from just being kind of sillycomic stuff too, like there was barely any violence like everything had tokind of go through this homiscode thing, everybody was afraid of the COMMIS codauthority, denouncing them there wouldn't be able to selwl her books,anymore and Badman. Kindo went into this realm of Scifi, so some of thestuff. I think you were talking about right before the show where he startsfighting aliens traveling hour time as pageon PSA a announcements about doctor,drug's, kids. You know what so that kept going. That's when we gotlike that might t paste the Badhound we introduced Tatman and back girl, notthe one you're thinking of, and all this continues on all the waythrough the fifties, the characters kindof dying. I nineteen and sixty fourthey try and take a swingback towards the detective stuff, but it's soolittle too late and the only thing that really saved that man comn or at thatpoint was they said. Well, let's make a t v show, and so then you got that mansixty six, which we did e Teme Song for just a minute ago and that's when youkind of the C populary to Caracter that show, even though itwas kind of Can'tbeand fun and t s kind of ridiculous lixt TV is whet, save the character, keptthe comics from getting cancelled and then kind of helped. It survive until nineteen nineteen seventies when theywere able to kind of go back into those dark, detective stories yeah and hebasically what you're saying is started out. Little Gritty. You know: Bat menrunning around hey'll make me kiten. ANCO bar comes in and they're likethe's getting out of hand exactly I good and then like okay, you gotta yougotta Chill Out Cok tolike on lessen mell do one and and couscal authorityht Yo d, not the jet. I you should only beable to speak in MN from star war as far eyeah and h. So you know it gets.It gets a little. It's a little kind of he's, stilldangerous and dangerous and chill they shell out a Li o the chillout a littlebit and then h and then finally, they they bring it back and killd themalevery single one of them they're like animals, and I slougteed them like athat's more like more, like a joker, maybe on ever he'. Never quite Ma gets back tothat killing, Lam it new nomthintil. I I just remember my favorite one, whichII read. I had to go back and read a to Ma. Tra read it correctly, and then Ilook up that it was a real thing and I didn't Llusnativeso. The joker is like:Oh I'm going to make bad man slip up in a way that that you know Youknowi'mGoin ta Um make it look bad on in the publicnewspaper in the public eye, except the way he phrases it. He says I'm going tomake Batman commit a boner Yep, and so the higher thing is about Badman'sboner and then the joker messes Meno, thenewspaper in the comic PS, the thing about jokers, big boner and he's likewhat my voter, no, she thes Atmans. Bon. I'm like Hapo, like a fiftyyr like ohmy. What atime WTO be alive. AAn Has Einfamous bonary fews. Oh, there was a bonerisyeah, it was. It was excellent. Also jokers H. jokers plans were alwaysjust the most ridiculous things o're...

...like. How are you profiting from this,like literally one he, he um, here's one he he wasdothey were like harmlesspranks, but somehow they led to him o accomplish some like stole everyone'stelephones or or did something superinnocuous and somehow it was partof a bigger plan that actually profited him. So everyone was just like yeah,whatever we don't need, but he still button. I don't remember I doN'tno wa,but he was deeling, something like Supor e fighting. He was doing like themost low key crime and somehow it became somehow it was some biggerscheme and I was like dude. I don't understand waiting to do this smallcrime furs, one of the you know most famous joker store. S is actually Olthe laughing fish and he makes smiling fish and then he tries to paten themitself gets really upset when he can't do that, and that was I believe that was in theseventies. So that was when they were trying to bring it back to more seriousstuff, but yeah. The joctor is always crazy, but from the seventies hit KindaKep, going with the darker more detective style, Batman Again: Yo hadart writers like denioneal R, Neel Adams, that we're kind of bringing itback kind of forming the Batman at me sea today and that kind of kept goingUm. The sales are starting to SLACP off again until the nineteen eighties, whenFrank Miller released tha dart night returs, which is has been made into ananimated movie, but it's basically considered one of the top. Probably oneof the talk, toographic novels all t time with watchment up there as well,really reinvented the character kind of brought out all of those darkerelements. You get to see an old man Batman by Superman, really cool stuffand then that just kindof continued frankmeller ti year, one which I thinkis probably the best orgin asory for Bat, and they also made a movie aboutthat and it just kindof kept getting darker nineteen and eighty eight. Theydid death of the family killed off Jason Tots Robin they also did thekilling joke, cripple Barvera Gordon, that's a really dark, Badman' story,but a great jokeor Orgin, and then from there on out. We start getting into themultimedia the next year, nineteen and eighty nine, the first that man moviecomes out. Well, the first nineteen eights BAA movie. There was thenineteen sixty six bad man moving, which is the best yeah. Well I mean some days you just can't get rid ofbomb fantastics. What a good movie I mean ifyou and the thing it was when I watched that I thought it was just Oh Adam wasjust played in Super Cam, but then I went back and read the Comoen. I waslike no, no, no he's playing it exactly me: Git IINTO, the comic s! Yo the what s it Birjust Marrid, I is PanWi en the ridler has wet my favorite partabout that is the rither will give them rintles right and they'll say it, andthe Robin will instantly solving that Yo any time to think about it. 'll Youany time to to say: Wow, that's a funom s, aestely easily and and some brierLov goes up white and comes now yell and White, and a okay Mik that whatwaigs three ounces lives in tree and its extremely dangerous a sparrow with a machine gun. I knowWen. I figure that I don't een, remember how the Cloue help them wetthe great. The great thing is: There's not really any logic, ca or doduce it'cause he'll give hem like three clues. Thou'l go through that to bean her like.Well he's. Obviously you know at the Gatham chemical fact iatching a planright now. We need to go. Stop e lust do youhear the wild. In the backgroundYe East Soot and handful, I you'll clarify. There's a duff in thebackground telling US where he I H S. I that's that's my favorite Bateey.I mean, I don't think it's the best Fatna move, but it's my favorite, it'sthe one. I was Lik. Okay, you can only watch one band and really for the restof your life. I'm taking that one. Sorry D, it! I love the dark night, butI love that Baoi. It is a Lod on room sinit, IT'S LIK! It's everything!That's great about the nineteen sixty six TV s, Julias Crampe, into like anIron House and Oh, I loved that Lego, Badan, movie, f reference et and thatreally one weird time in D, nineteen sixty six AIS, lik dancing in his badsood, but Um th, the I'm going to spoil this movie a little bit. So the PLO ofthe movie is it's like the joker, the Penguin T, eridlar atwaw catwoman, and do this no n, just inthemtwo days wasactually never in the nineteen sixty six, but he so their their whole plan is t e.They come up with this machine that can dehydrate people and so first of all,they used it t to invade the matgave as they anginlik s thatartheir whole plan. IS THEY STEEL?They? They kidnop the entire UN bi dehydrate man, whin the news, littlebibles and then Bainrup and rescued them, and then spill like break all thevials until the like speek them up and put them back and then with theyreconstitute everyone. First of all, they have the reconstitution happens.They got like testoos on rigstand, ojint, metal rods and then the peoplejust aphear, the METAA, didn't go anywhere, so it doesn't Nol Havtbetteloes in their butts. Now sorry I mean it is the US it is, but everyone'sspeaking a different language and he's like at that, as like Robin wome today,mhave been the single greatest advance...

...in peace everyam like, but they stilldon't understand each other and and you listen to them, they'reliterally all talking about world peace and the Leder saying wold, pease cortlike Oy're, not saying Anythongo, just Lak World Peace Werld, these Royal PeacWuorl pies, are different. Lante and like is this? What happens to the UD? Oh good meeting S, I have a world baseworkthe. Other great thing is like, even when the villains are coming inthey're just sitting there arguing pretty much completely ignoring en thea time until they're all ehydrate it'sis Y knoworldbes. What else isthere? Also? Even my brother even mentioned that I should probably saythat almost all of these down clips Mutondo Gestmy r from the utup DartSands, trilogy, which is fantastic, and you should go see it? No, no! It'sbecause I'm so in love with you I want to sethose are actually I tookthem from Nethat's ctually, decried, ithraidiaut yeah. So so Ithink nineten sixty six been the first bat man I ever okay and that wasactually Um Wei'll get back to th, just one. Second, moving back just finishingout our timeline, really quick. We Gad Nineteen, eight Nin Bat man reallygreat, actually really kind of the popularty of Tho character likeintensely multiliwhich, led into Badmanthe animated series rigged intalking about kind of the defenative voices for Badman, O jokeor, somereally great stuff there, and then it's kind of quiet, multimediawises until two thousand and five when the Nol antrilogy kicks off and we'lltalk about that and then twenty sixteen we end up with Batmampy Superman. We catalk about Batflik a little bit com Gregg's, making a really excited face.An no t talk about back lackand. Then, of course we already talked about theLego, Batman movie in twenty seventeen, and you know, there's future plans aswell a lot of other animated series in there but Hee I sycnically and young justice tooyeah the character. That's existed in a lot of different ways. You know fromthe Campi in the chilly, with the sixty six to the LEGO and all the way up tillh. You know wanting to murder people or hanging them from his airplane. Youknow all kinds of great stuff so but it's greate Byi for yeah its greak out.So one of my first questions was what was your first experience with Thatman?You were talking about it. Bein the Nineteen Seveny r. It was the the TVshow, hmreally O leading Grir with the nineties. I mean I did but because mydad watched, 'cause, hewo watch Um, don't know, Er was ere's, there waschannel Thalaylan Shes Yeah, so my dad would wathe TV than all thetime. So you know I grew up on like rifleman and Bonanza and Andygri showand yeah am with that, the real bat myfirst experience was with. Like honestly was, I don't know if it wasith direct through media probably probably had toys and like nly, tryingto think. If there was a a video game I played. I had a Batman t shirt that Iloved Yes kinda weird, but it was definitely as far as Weber media. I wasconsuming that man through first was definitely into nineties. T V showwhich you know being song still on my head and my opinion's still the bestafpiction AF Hatman, at least my favorite defiction about man. I shouldsay Um yeah those ware like that whole series, ofyeah and M, I'm right alongthe same line. So I had a my dad was a youth paster and there wasa guy in th m youth group at the time. I was you know a little kid, but Iwould come an go aong on these trips and he was really into bat an, but hewould like get me to toys and stuff be talked to me about it, but the firsttime I really got into it was just Saturday mornings washing that manyanimee series on Oneo brothers Ki, W B, yeah s realy good stuff. So I figure we can, like. You weresaying kind talk a little bit about EAC incarnation. We had talked a little bitabout that man. Sixty six, which, which can I just say, M. First of all,adamlist comes back as the voice ofser several characters, intatmanpin things,but in the fairly odd parents n the plane as a Catman. Yes, who was likeyou know, was a. They almost did this in the enemy, hero, the Grey Ghost Ywithis hes like Sircer Goofy, where he was a teeny star.He played catman and now he thinks he's Catman and so he's just running aroundbeing cabman wearing the costume and fingerdiculousbut its voice by AdomWeston. I loved that Adom Ist had that sense of humor t' be like I was this. Icom and I don't have to take myself seriously hees all these things makingfun of that icon, I'm going to go along with that and rests. He did return as the Greay ghosthe actually, I think, he's always mayor...

...in another Batmancar. I think it was habad man. Somebody came back. He basically any time. The WUD ask him todo. Voiceworki he'd come back and do a special guest apparance orplay a character, and he was in in the fairly outparence. He was T v's, AdamWest, yes and othe other her hum everyting was T v's, Adam wess. Ireally oer anyway. Ah Talking about th talk about that man, yeah babman sixtysix, basically pretty much introduced the mainstream, audiece usy thecharacter, and it was obviously it was a very accessible show. She's like hecould sit down and enjoy it and it's silly. You know it was reliable. Youcould watch it the next week same bad time, saying I don't have somthing BAchannel Yogot O and you know, brought in the little Delitli and little spintything, the SPINTIG trasicians and a lot of stuff. That's that youll see ontelevision Otoday and that Batmobil. That's one of the I like that Badobilemhm it', the crazy turbine thing and Orin wi. No, it was that it was thatone it was the red and black Yan open, open top was, like I remember, readingan article ECAUSE Jaleno apparently has one and it has some sort of weird likerotary engine and it idols at twenty two thousand or PM, but it has cer yeah, but literally hasa jet Engineei and they did a really good job, pickinga car that looked very distinct so that people would be like. Oh that's, theBatmobile, it was a very distinctive car, unlike like James Bond, wouldalways drive. You know like mws and Oudis and ND things that werlay cars n.That jus happened to have misaluncious a and inject our seets, but they pickthey very distinct. They kned a good job. They found a car that basically noone Bou t did not sell well, and so it became e Batmobile. Nobody knows at asow that one car anything else to say on sixty six BamanH, scisor Romano refused to shave his moustache, so you can see his clownmake up painted over his mustache that he refused to shape they actually a couple of years agothey did in nineteen. Sixty six, like ego fat man set as crdl collectors, isthe mansion with the bat cave underneath, and they include him andyou can actually see o painted on moustaf ha one of the bustyit's. Prettygood, and I mean he's a he's, a good joker he's fun, he's manic, all the allthe actors. Obviously again, it's very camtbe, but all the actors did a goodjob, defining their characters and you can tell um they're, really enjoying Ohyeah en yeah. Again, a lot of the CASS Bir Ward will come back and do stuffyeah, actually just SI cameo and the WB INA Cristis thing: Oh cool recently,Julie Numar will come back and do cat woman and stuff they actually a fewyears ago, before Adam Ess, passed away. They did two animated movies with himfor Ward and Julie Newmor, where it was that man returned to the Cape Crusaders,saiing the same thing and then h. They did one trying to remember the title ofhis bat man, an to Bas, bisyeah introduced n nineteen, sixty six Erntwoplace yeah, and I I I feel like t the closest that that Mans come back tothe spirit of the sixty six pamen other than Lago movie was bamming the Brad inthe bold hich. It really was really was a love letter to all of Batmen and anDC in general, but it kind of embraces that campiness that cufiness yeah Ienjoyed Brepin in the Brian, bold, quit Itas, basically, a kind of a levelletter to that sixties, time period, Thas fifty stories and all the DCuniverse as well. You Cou'd see hem teaming up with modern old characters,but all in that, like Scifi Pobe, anhe, Sawt Yeah, and it was outrageous, ijustand and everyone had a cold open. That was its own, like very short minute.Many story which ID appreciated that wasn't connected to the episode at alland then how about eighty nine bat man? I don't know that I've seen that that'sthat wwhich okay, so I get all the the bad menmovies between sixty six and theone confuse I've seen the one with ban. Okay- and I thought it was reallydythat- is- I don't think I saw the only Jack Nicholson as te joke. Okay, Iactually only watched that just recently, which shamefuls Tateni've I owned itfor years, but uh it as really great grag 'did. You ever see Oin Batman. No,I I saw the one with Um Scharzeneggers Mr Frieze t that wasthe thing Righyeahalmast, not good h. That wasworthat was something rod and Talkd. I Tim about itjust because I was ay at it movies, not very good, well, haamalins that thatwas bad, nippls right, Yep, yeah, well, tat, Nipvles, actuall Jbud in th, onebefor, Asowinarobi, okay, and this Om was be. That was so at a BA mentforever. Yes, ecuse me badmen forever, Davu, Bati Ann Robin and the Badman,and Robin was the terrible final on okay. So that's the one I've seen thereally bad one and I was like what is happening and then later it confused mea lot because when they were like Oh banes, coming in for dark night rises-and I you know looked up the character...

...of vene, he was that screany guy in Baaforever hichever. When I watched right- and it's like- oh Ba, you know bane- isa genius n and also Hispanic the Bain. I saw. How did they get that so wrong?Its like? Where here are Baines traits he's Rit it up, he's incrediblyintelligent and he's suspanic they're Li one o three, I bad Ri! Well thatmovie it's like it was basically l. let's Sol the actuall figures, gain'cause. They had that man Robin they introduced Batkgirl, they had poisoneIvy, they had mister Prriao, said Reda. Everyone is here that man got a secondsuit to fight mistorpreeze. You know, so they gel some more toys o all lo, and I it's not the worst thing things aboutthat is, that was mser freeze up until that many right, diing te ice pun isjust not writing. Much of a character yea, we don't need to talk about toomuch about thee further ones. But what sort t were last wrong with that man orwas that that man? Eighty nine was K Ketmatatman? He came back for that man returns, which was the one W Tcatwo in the Penguin, and then I'm trying to think n thing, elern stillBacdman for the one withtin, which noww that many Lon that was o hats, byats Ho o yeah and I'm tryingto remember who is Itas, Keat and Katon, and then somebody else Liso. I saw Imanaged to see out of the four I man to see the worst one Gomi. It's been along time since I've seen the rest of bu M. Eighty Nineis reallygood. Basically, you know it's directed by Tim Burden. Kind of introduces youto the character. Batman does an origin story for the joker, it's kind of itsown thing, but it's Tut Nichols son, Ta adiculous got ower and jokers poner. Hewas a a character named Jack. Napier he'sbasically a gangster recumps joker over the corse film, but it kinda builds offof some of that darker stuff that they were doing. You know dark Nigt,returner and all that kind of stuff and basically takes all those preconceivenotions about Badman, being Atam West and basically only Beng a commudancharacter and throws them out the window for the mainstream mainstreamaudience kind of Prap, some to be ready for the rest of, but yeah Ketin does areally great job. Nicholson. Does a really good job if you're not going towatch any of the rest of the Ot say, go back and check out Katan's Badmanbecause he may be coming back in future batmen movies. carely now. Did you seeUm hird man? I have not seen Er. So Bergman is Michael Katon, basically implying that he's he's gonethrough the same park like his character is not Tho t same mark. Hewas this dispraying, the superhero of these old movies called bird man andthen he's kind of washed up now trying to run a theater Edwere Norton's in ita a really read movie and it was filmed. It's not actually epecal see AA singe,Shi, Domn SITEP. Come again. I watched the firstHaf I got exhausted and it was actually good. It was very weird andZakalphanacis was. I actually enjoyed him that so I usually, I usually don'enjoy the characters that he plays, but he was actually really I. How did youfeel about him as the joker? Oh, oh, that so that was Grat I's a great, soeas, a Grot, aactor, yeah and then of course, Mikl Keton plays a birb man andthen an act glass as evil bird man in Spide Erman or who does a great jobhe's one of the best villains, yeah ye theythose vultures. Like such a lowd toyour villain Batman, I mean I feel, like the DoosBetterman, the new ones, e El Yeah, oh Yeahas Yeh. They haven't even used bigname that Av e en a savent for the a fave it for the Fiterman in pyp, ofhomeSafo, the Paon, an episode weal yeah. So, but I think the main thing is witheighty nine. It is pretty great go back and I recommend going back and watchingis a o on de numbers. It is, I believe I watched it on D C universe.It may not be now it may be on HBOBOMADI onten out of there, I'm pretty sure,there's going Ta shut down these universe and just switch over to Hoomax,but we'l see. I think they may end up combining them, because I don't thinkhbmx wants all the comics and that's kind of why most people have innowadaysrightight. So then that was what led into my favorite version of Badman, which isBadman the animited. I think, if you're interested in getting into thecharacter that man, the anmated series, is probably the best place and that Olno Ol Oi got this lady Elphin Rightrote Rode thisyea. DidI actually get the SEEA my bad guys, we'se, he I coul just singin vetty good. I any time you have. I think I feellike horns are so underused. A just like building we get juseriamswone of the cool things. Is they...

...actually got a full orchestra forbasically the whole soundtrack to the show, which was unheard of in animation?At the time, yeah and h, the Bamobile is clearly styled after the sixty sixone, it's got the really long and the kind of jet engine in the back Um. This is this is the the musical note. Ilove right here. ERNAL's eyes go WID at Man f. That N also. So I think one of the first jokeR epoos, the one where he's making the the mind controle garbage rafts Yep adhe, has a robot henchman. I get chills every time that that thatlast horn piece- I love it so much, but that was weird about that episode.I think it's the only episode that does this, but it goes to this weird, likejazz song, beat thing a whole episode. It's really weird lic helive in backeveryone's doing their actions to to be the music anthey, only a yeah, it'sit's! So it's so weird L E, when they'ere affected by the joker yeah. Iwas trying to place where you were talking about, but yeah, it's 'cause, they're, very happy. Yeahyeah and crazy, but yeah that's what introduced Kevin Conroy's Batman and hebasically has been badman ever since through some great video games whe, Iend up plugging a little bit Ayer but Mark Hamel as the joker MHM ND.Both of those were kind of they'd, never really done much as far as voiceacting beforethey ended up showing up for this and kind of made t mad wholecareers out of it. Yeah Kevin Conroy was basically just stageactorbeforehand. You know Mark Amelien in, like some small movies called like starwars or something hewas, nobody I mean, but uh that was kind of his intrainvoice acting and he's gone on, and I done a lot ont whol lot. I don't know,I thought what was funny was when he was on Arrow, as the TRIKSTERI was like waitis that the joker 'cause he's literally playing the joker well and he he'sactually repl reprising. His role from the original nineteen nineties last T vshow when he was going. The church Tere W Ho's the TRICTERIN that too yeah. So he also voiced the trickster ind Justeah as well yeah, which one of myfavorite scenes is flash with the trickster in the Bar, and we won't getio that right now pe they need a wise up and and make a movie with old jokerand Casmar camel as a life action version oker BA blow people to whatI've. What I've wanted them to do for years is they're talking about doing abad man beyond movie, that's probably what they're brain keeting back, forwhich I think is like the second best thing, but doing a bad man beyond movieand just having Kevin Conroy as old man ba a he does kind of look he's a littlescrawny, but he does look like o Meba e and he actually kind of played thatrole in again the CW roseper. He was an older erk. I need to. I need to go backside. I I dropped off of all shows 'tie. I got got tocw IAM inhacnically shows up at well,Bruce Wane shows up in titans and he's played by a gay from game thranc. Ihaven't gotten that Ar don't want to. Let's see but yeah, so the animatedseries does a lot of really cool stuff introduced the character of Harleyquin,who has become just increasingly popular ever since ie that they trie togive her her own hungry franchise, yeah, but h they have given her a reallygreat, really great show really great animated show, also made Mr freeze into a characterand took him from you know: Ice To meet you I'm going to steal diamonds, 'causetherre ice. You know all that kind of stuff and see that's Yiy. Look like I into a character that has you know hisdying wife Heus based in tragedy e gives them an origin that makes himinto an interesting they'v. basically just used ever sente yeah. He went froma one to Misilvilbillin to e sympathetic Antihero, although at somepoint you're like okay, you know that Batmanis the world sgreat is detective.You know he has access to the Justice Lee the Neurman like o Ba Mi. Can you help me cure my wifeand you know he'd say yes, what D Ho Say? No, I don't. I won't do that now.Pe smacker in the back of the head, nd e, like now you're doing this, sothat's one thing that I've never understood is wife, reeze doesn't saybecause Tatman has as Varmen an ries o both acknowledge that the only reasonthat in stops, him is because he's committing primes yeah and he was doingit legitimately. He he wouldn't stop him right, like he' he's on board withsaving a wife. So I have never understood why ban man all the Badmanwritersthat are Listeng to this right now, right, mea n, an episode whereMister Frieze's Sawyer, I guess, resolved really quickly so m. Theyactually there's limited series called Batman, White Night Setin, an alternatereality kind of based off of the...

...animated series unimerse by ShandrTordon Murphy. Basically, the premise is what, if the joker Batman's goingoff the rails and the joker ends up becoming sane and it's Kindof like thejoker campaigning, it's Batman as the same person, Hu, but one of the coolelements from that is part of the reason. Badman is goingcrazy as Alfred's dying, so he teams, up with mister freeze, to extend hislife and trying ture, both him Alfred and Presus Wite, and it's really coolkind of dynamic, winto believe her names, Nora. Yes, nor were I not fam,no sir or Norah PREIC. You know, depending onwhat version you're in yeah, okay, so that's Somthn set us always botherd meabout Calic Bot is like everyone has to have a name that translakes perfectlyinto Thi supeping fability like Oh, what's your name, Edward Nigma, okay,you're, your Ovillin Kan your last name. He was literally eigmalike Coa and heasthe ridler like come on OC. I thought the animated series did a really goodjob with, like some of the warm minor like villin rolls an y made them intolike really compelling characters. 'cause. I remember like the killer,crock episode. I think it was wh he's such like a minor like ', not evensomebode, you really think of when you go on a list of like Maine Ano way youget to him, but he is his really in depth. Ipisode Um, where he's like,with like this weird traveling, like circusfamily, youngher, they're, all kind of awkward at Heas, feeling like he'sfitting in and he's starting to change a little bit, but he ultimately likejust goes back to his roots, AF being like a thug, and that man beats them upor whatever, but it was such an interesting episode of Emember, even asa kid like really like grappling w th like that and wanting him to be a goodcharacter, almost like voting for killer Rong at one point, and he wasalso just animated. It was a cool depiction of him. He was very humanlike as opposed to. He saw him an I n t not to say thatthat Um, that suicide squad is like he just Kindo, looked like like apower rangers villain and that you know what he looked like e Michaelbasesisige turtle was, and he could barely gen at lalklike hewould too try to talk and he's like, and it was like, not Gong howd. YouWatch t these series. Like he's completely articulatelyk. I was just agood pictor of him. If I idn't lean into that of him just being like everyone responding like he was sayingReal Word Lik, you boexactly, and he doesn't like O. I I don't like youeither, but even evel rklike, like like a said Ma people like clay face. I G, I think,got like a really cool, backstore wh. It was like this this you know up andcoming actor and he's like really struggling with stuff, and then he endsup. You know trying to put on this certain kind of makeup than ND turninghim into clay h and like just like how like he had follow episodes too I meanhe was. He was a big character now and he like can't even remember last IIN.He said the Word Clayface EAS loi, but he's also fantastic and hartly. His marersation s hear in earlyquin ishe's just a fespan he's jus a dedicated actor iall he's doing is trying to beaget his next big role, Oud forraican its yeah. It's a lot of fun, it's AlFun, but one of the things that made the show so great is basically a lot ofthe animation team. came off it things like doing the hand of Arbera cartoonswhere they would do justiclee and superman wasn't allowed to punchanybody o really usinghis powers. They did things like tiny tunes, butthey, basically you had all these creative people that were really hungryto be able to tell a story like Thi Wase. A little bit darker Ti make acartoon where there was actually some action, and so they kind of all end up getting gettingtogether on Badmane, animated series and they're able to take things reallyseriously like get a full orchestra infant scoreright sofwhere. They basically had a one of their editors. People in Charesso would just be like you know what we're going to push this as far as wecan possibly go. So you have, you know, a show where Batman's parents actuallycan get gun down in an alley, or you know they had to use like laser lookingguns. They had this kind of norasthetic and all that kind of stuff, but andthey were able to take it as seriously as you can, when you're filling is aclown, a guy that got mutated by putting onthe wrong kind of make ut or ah Y. I think that was wasn't at a PS, a thatwas like one of sorry that was they did. is they found an old Roman ps? I don'tuse this, make upbut yeah. They took it really a seseriously and they weren't ashamed of the fact that it was a coerforn show,they're, usually iinto it they and they tried to give all the villains kind ofa nesympathetic backstor some newants. I INE PSYCHOLOGY, only two villains whoreally like. Never on the side, like I kindof an an empathizing with his villand his the Panguin a little bit and an joker, obviously Ye. But thenyou have Harley right, oed up being...

Canad his foil. You end up sympathizingwith her. I don't understand how how DC has done so woll with Harlequin, butthen that one like that man and Harlicon s so bad. It's won't get into that too much, but yeah Bruce Tam did a really good job, but hehas some really weird ideas and yeah that whenever they bring him back innowadays, it dint like the killing joke was another thing: Bruseto was heavilyinvo N N. You ened up with the weird fatrol Soiin, an hat yeah. So if asalike edition to to like a a movie that really couldn't go wrong ad, that andyou're like look AU, remember thinking it Wasn'n the wrong movie, I mean, but seriously like I was likethis isn't like it's just clearly not it's like, and then the movie startsand you're like why shis getting pthe thing is the killing. Joke is reallyshort. So it's long enough to have like an episode of a t V show, but not longenough to have a movielet's fill up fifty minutes of just random, back Ofigting a guy and have a potential sex same with that man. You know great idea,Soo thend of killing joke though it was so good. Yes, just that last scene,I've gone back and watched that Yo on Ou tob several times here. They'resitting in the rain like just like the audio eddeting, like everything aboutthat scene, is excellent, so baseally, what we're saying is Bam, Mantheanimate series, Oyeh and killing joke. How did this happen pretty much sa? Icould have a killing joke with s good kind of moving the next big thing aftera Badman obviously spends out into the rest of the dcnat universe. I'll justsay I I only recently watched the entirety of Ben Antiso. Most of my tatman watching was justice and the character of one of the things's really cool is basically DC on TV. Did the mcu before the Mihe and thatman's kind of the Horner stone that they're founded on you know, Yo go intosuperman after that, then they cross over and then Justice Likeyeah, whichwas Al my God. The theme song projusticely is so happy Yeh. When thatTemans plaing, I like the jlu one, it's not bad, it's a little too cock rock,but but the the O G justice. Lee Thingsong is one of the best temes long,O ther, so Si, and then I'll really briefly touch on going from there andBadman KINDOF. has this huge character or jumps over into Badman Beyond, Oh,which is so good, get to see old man that man kind of reinvigorate thefranchise kindof makes all the things that make spiderman great at a newBreon, a Batman, OL boy, what a weird intol that one OINTOA rangings like it was like: Thustre Nyeh. What am I, what does t HAP T do with thatin again, ten is Amananra.His guyh was ninetys Eggy, his good thing yea, but te Bai bend as actuallysuch a good show and then, when they actually there's basically two endingsfor the DC Animated Universe at the end of justice, leaguunlimited runch isreally cool. They kindof do all the heroes running at you and then theykind of get down to the then the original Justice League pops out andthen it's like, basically superman. Wonder woman an they close out onBatman and they kindof go back through the theme: Songs as they're doing itend up on the bad logo and then the other one wis epilogued, which isbasically the end of? U It's basically a Baman beyond episode,they Lig ine dragsly right and if you watch the end of that, it's a mirror ofthe opening scene of the first episode of Hatman Patman opens up with a bunchof people on a blimp, and you got a man, Bat flying through the clouds or e.What is that? Is it bad and then when they go through and they do l thetriumphant ending of Bamabion? They basically completely redo that, becauseBadmambian can fly, he flies by like a police, hover craft or whatever it waswith him yeah. They were very. Very bad. Man was kind of the foundation of thatuniverse and they really honored that all Wiyea, it's very cool yeah. So itwasn't that so as long as the one where they reveal that Terry Jones askd Pania,yet terring mginis is Therno a clone of Bagafer. A me which Terry cruise is isactuallyi, don't know if ou go tari s actually bnow eduse te tat. We wouldlove if you very Groese, if you ever somehow by some weird work of nature.Listen to this, please send us a picture of Ujestnabanan, O whoill bethe best thing ever y macar Clo Amazingyeah, so so that was actuallykind of controversial 'cause. A lot of people didn't like it didn't like theidea o that, oh, of course, he's going to become badman because he's partThatman people like it a lot more when it was just like he's just some regularJoe. That tamy was like got potential also, instead of being like almostalmost like what we tk Aot was. Actually I the last yet I anybody canbecome a Jeteye e on Jete, whereas no...

...she's, a Palpo Tein, so of course she's yeah right. So so a lot of peopledidn't like that, and I I I totally agree with them. I think I think it wasunnecessary to explain why is he so good as being Batman beyond, becausehe's part of that man? I was KINDOF divided on that episode,because it was basically like everyo guess likes o long as one as much butlike the flashback to juste league where Batman basically goes in they'relike you have to kill this girl or Weit's GOINGTA end yeah. That wasreally and then he just sits with her as she dies. It's just amazing but yeah. It's basically everything.Basically, that episode's kind of a mandewaller going back and sayinghere's all the things that are great about Thatman. The best thing about himis is compassion, which was not what you expect, but it's really coolyeahand what you should have said is your birds. There were nobody, he papper's grave John Ty Desert. Whereis Jaku, want to worry about Tmano wor about it wheres harvy. 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Idon't think anyone was expected because I remember when it was coming out andpeople were like itws a badly moving and then he came out. He like the spaymovie's, really good, yeah yeah. No, it really was like I remember it, flyingunder the radar initially whereever, like I remember, watching in theatersUm and really liking it just because I I didn't know much about Racio Gool atall and a little that I did. I really liked the way that they did it. Even asa kid. I was like that's a cool way to think about it. 'cause the whole thingflike rise, wos immortal like a that's pretty much all I knew about thecharacter. I'm like Ho he's that one imoral guy that carries around like aSamrie Sword. He's Kindo, like I did'T, I didn't know, hat the Lazarus Pitinlike all the details, and so I was just like. Oh look like he's kind of like aweird dude, but then there ere, just like oh he's immortal because whoeverdies as Rasarul becomes the next roter. You know, there's n, like he's an idea,and that was the whole thing and I was like that's a really cool way to put itbecause I it w it was kind o in that era where, where they were starting tomake live action superhereoand, it was like. You always thought I, as a k likehow would how would this bee was an actual at Yo? Obviously you couldn'tmake him just ridiculous like in these ways, although we've see movies, wherethey do, they do things Nthet, but this movie actually did wrab hold of that.as saying like, this is a real thing. What action would that be wo? A realimmortal, Rasiwu look like, and it was, and that was the cool thing about noonsBatman is basically, let's take this fantastical thing: drip it down to andof its basics, tell a good story: Tut Keep it kind of grounded and realisyeah, and then all the mystical stuff was all mistery is like. Maybe he is ormaybe h, t's just the guy who's tearing on a legacy. 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I Mel like bring some corpses with. He I mean litea years, O Hey! No,let's go one of our guys and the guy's like okay, cool I'll wait here. Justlike L, Ke make sure we've started pieces and like like he started. AFINE,though, is like yes, sinit wo Barsk he's Esyer adopted the I was born, OTesi. You said around the one of his one of his best subtle linesis when the two guys bring in Gordon and he's like he's like. Why did youbring him up and they're like well h? He's e commissioner and he's like nowhe's seen everything and then he just a he like r like like He. He falls offinto the water, he shoots one of Hem and then he tells the other one he'she's he's a check his body and then I'll, kill you and he's like andhe likebends down, and he starts like checking his body like like. He just tells himlike that. He he's, like you ceck his body, and then I will kill you and,like the guys ware just doing, and it is planing the La this last time Iwatched it. That was something that I recognized more of as how how muchemthassis they had on all this people following him like to a strange. Idon't know why they did that. Why wwhat was the motive behind that becausethat's emphasized it the whole moviesis? How loyal his little substitute peopleare like they get caught at one point and they're like Abane, says th t theywill all literally die before they tell Hem any things that you don't have toworry about it there's th one part where H's Ike Hay. Can you do this andthey'll kill you after wards, and the guy starts doing it at the beginning?He's like hey, stay, ing the plane and dy like they emphasize this point a lotand I never knew Li. Is there something about him? That's persuasive is: Is hejust MNALIANS 'cause they're like Hrleyeah? That's that's the onles. WhatI kindo came to I was like maybe like theyre, were underes they're, not yourcommon thoags they're, like League of shadows, ready to die, but they kind ofs es on Commonto. 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We order ten ten of those, but that's where youcan. I man must have stolen that car from Wa n interfrt. You O go Ju Lot,ere Bi billionaire on top and say they found away but theyalso they go through somelibergies of like even like getting the mask wit e, like hey, we'll order earsfrom one place and we'll order the helmet from a different place that wecan make them ourselve. I answer, but IAM o Peopl people not finding out thatMin's identity is kind of one of those things to Jistlikeer, youill, thinkLian talking to Rachel someon you's. Now you your whole life, you barely, Imean your eyes are covered and you're talking in your nurbal voice, Yore, not ro. I am on top ut what I do:Eyeh Trontril C yeah, it's IT'S GONT! It's just such a bummer! Nowbeecause, there's Gon to be more badmansmade and you're like I got tocompare it to that. 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These vils, as opposed to like the whole DC universe,is like yeah, this woman Vanthiasciera, which is a place on earth, that'shidden and she's like a God, and then you have superman who's an alien, andthen you like it's like I it's just there's a little there's like way toomuch supernatural for him to try to make noly wile. U I it would have beengreen Arrow, but then we've been right, all the EEC, the same foot with thoseand arrows and we'll talk about this. If we di aSuper Man Episo, oh we ere saying but yet superman should not be dark andGretty ndo defeats. The pointi man is a boy scout wh. She S is hosly beefor hisNewolo Lot, so that people have time to t to cause chaos and then once he's notfooled any longer, he can go and say the day. 'causes supermas shoot Hemwith some Red Sun radiation or throw Rocke or green rock at him. You knowwhatever you need to do. I sa You M. it's still, not as bad aiodreanlanteranmore. One of the green lanterns weakness was the color yellow and I'mlike well the villa doll school tes, sorry about it, there's number what en ofyontefeartists Yso. If you guys you ever want to see simultaneously some of the bestbatmen ofour art of all time and basically the worst bad man story ofall time. There is a comic called All Star, Badman and Robin the boy. Wondersmouthful of the title by Frank Miller, terrible terrible badman story all overthe place, but one of the highlights from it is green. Lantern shows up he's,like basically e Tatman. Did you KIDAP this kid? He wants to have a C rationalconversation with him. The Way Batman gets around this. He and Robin stay upall night, completely paint the inside...

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Theyactually cut out a lot of things that explain like little bits of whatlexendorse plan are, like he's, actually paying the people to kill thepeople with the bad symbol in the prisons, all this kind of stunf. Itmakes a little bit more sense. It does not savage the moviebut one. Some ofthe things I did like about Benafflex Patman is: He did look really good.They basically modelled his suit and kind of the supermant fight after thedark night returns. Always I liked him as an older Batman. I really liked hisintroduction, where he's in the he's in metropolis, for some reason that one ofhis one of his branches and he just as Bruce Wen waine, runs into the rubbletren today peopl. I thought all that was really cool. The only really goodmoment in suicide squood, in my opinion, was his cameo, where he shows up takesdown the joker and Harley, and then you know gives on O harly they. They didsome really cool things. The warehouse fight was pretty cool, but they kind ofruined it all with him, just being really bul thirsty and before thePLODGES end at and with and with Mart Save Martha. I just I thought I thoughtthe biggest thing the movie hinged on was him being mad at Superman, and there just wasn't enough for me for,like. I was like why Yo Hat Lik, likethe Cate, obviously he's like. Ohyou destroyed that city and you killed those people, but like Likehe, clearlydidn't want to e you're Batman. You know: uply Mat, liter, scider's, wholewhish. What a tool itis whole bad mail, fcorse tatment kills people grow upLikeohan, maybe that man kills but he's not the punisher that no made him thepunisher and it's fine. If that man last resort kills me. I don't have aproblem with that. In fact, I think thit's more sensible than ven aneerpals anwhatever mhm well and it's within Badman's character to have tosee Superman and go like Oh crap that as a threat, you just j t took down acity, but it's not within his character. Who then try and take him down for noreason other than and trng o decid ore reasons that he'sbeen pursued as Yore like for people going? It's all your fault n him goingall right. I know better, like you can hate me, that's fine, but, like Iobviously know what I'm doing is good, and then you see somebody else doingthe same thing. Nane essentially is no ar yeah and he's like you're hurtingpeople and NST. I killed Ta Guy that was literallygoing to kill the whole world. Like he's going to kill the earth, I killedhim. Yes, it was a fight that hurt a lot of people, but I saved everybody.You can't understand that as another super hero and he's like no I'm goingto kill you it's like w y Yor Marter. It was just such a week. It was such aweak thing that, like it had to be really strong to motivate that man towant to just go out of his way to be like I'm Gonto go Exi Guy, like you gota good giant, I they shud made sense. He was like so like Hay, go, kill BatMann, I'm going to kill your mom, but also in that man's. Also moregreetdy and like e know that, like there are these little things that he'scatching onto like. Oh, like he's killing people and these prison cellsand like and Batman's, also just not going to take crap like like it'sunderstandable that I he's like if he approachhes Badma Batwenwe, be likeback the hell off like yea, I don't nee to da anything to you that makes moresense s. He superimbeing, like he's kind of a poster boy, sure he's Gonnhe's going to be a Vigilani and save people at the EXPENSEF, like somepeople getting hurt but like. Why is that Man Li? How is he so been out ofshape like dude, he so BN at abut? I honestly think people, people ere likeBak Matnan ains been aflic. No, this is not good. I didn't care, I thougt N,fine, ishlike, a ript and the direction. The Directing Wich Cargei also thoughtthat, like the weird implementing of like random Si like like, like wonder,women getting thrown in there, not a lot of character development, the weirdvideo game scene, where he gets like the power levels of all his friendsrace like watching them on the screen, like oh their ecible or go there's aflash hes like can ha star Fi tash, guys e at rarerear, sidboard halso executive. That comes in s like hey. So how can we putlike five trailers into this movie without anybody noticing? Oh, we couldjust have bat man watch government you to or like five minutes. Also wondowwoman's music, I think, is awreck. I thought the wonder: wone movie...

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Is this like e,like I was watching like? How else are you supposed to know that this femalecharacter is super cool you gotta get likeshe was already supergoal like shedid like her character? Was I EAN? It was fine other than being brushed otherthan being like hey. Let's have her movie before we do welike this bigmistake, but ea her character was was fine. It was just in light of likeeverybody in the movie being so silly and so stupid, like might have likeTatman being completely unr, irrational, like in light of Luthor, just not beinghimself. She was like. Oh, this is iperet the fresh air. This is like. Itwas almost as l onder woman came into the sceane was like what were you guysdoing like like stop noboy Mi, stop an I aa Caro, I a yeingand, so she's likea breadth of fresh air. In that sense, I just didn't like her her pikysicknaiis. She with you. I thought she was with you se by where's this giant monster in thisamozoniand for year, Om from Eopen Hermind, all Rightyeah Justice Leek. I actuallyhaven't seen justlike irs, Ms Up Really Yeah Justice Le was all over the place,it's kind of understandable because you had zaxniter and then they brought inJosweeden and those two people are not goingta work. Well, together, it wasjust like Bucky Brens, a a D we've been we've mentioned us before pretureeveryiy in the world, as mentioned yet like. Why would you make that moviebefore you've established those characters individually, like Unyyeahlike like? No, nobody like it's the first, it's like overload like you'regetting introduced to the flash you're getting introduced to Sidebordyoue,getting introduced to M Aquaman and you're, just like Oh, like man is seemslike three episodes of like of a TV show and t in the fourth episode beinga big fight and in the movies over and likeyou could do I just osleep movieand make it work. Th, there's proof of that 'cause. They did a hour and a halflong special to intruce justice. Lee Cartoon you knew Badman, you knewsuperman n and everybody else just kind of shows up, but I mean it's not goingto work as well in a movie, but they could have pulled it off, but they feeltlike. Most of these heroes are well known enough that we don't a therthatso like when I watch when you watch like the DC animated movies, which areall excellent, ey a're, almost so like there's, even the ones that I watche Li,I heardeven the ones othe. I watched that I'm not a huge K. I was 't a hugefan of Red Sun, but I was like I would still watch that a million times beforeI watched the telive actial ones. The thing that they do is is they doexactly what you said: L Ke. They know that their audience knows who thesecharacters are so like. If that's the route you're going Togo, if you'reutgoing to throw all omen there assume that and just have them come in andhave their their interactions with each other explain a little bit to eachother like Hey, who the heck are you, but we all know who SI orges ha? Whothe Hek are you, but we all know who the flashes and Hav them just meet eachother, and I think we've seen in the last couple in the last decade a lot ofmovies that have been like. Okay, we're going to give our aries the benefit ofa doubt and assume that this incredibly popular character is well known andthat people don't know who it is. It won't impact their movin. So Podetective thea that Hoe us like yeah, these pokmo Om C Ni. Aman am so yousign Ho Hedgehog they're. Just like these characters are here. Yeah done.You know the ord, you know where they came from and if you don't you don'tneed to, in spite of man, myou is is a great example, because you still geteverybody else reacting to him and him get getting to explain a little bit tothem. But, like you, skiplids, like man, Ou everybody, an ungle, ten ten dies.You like Ra Bi responsibility, bu like Youoall, all the origian stuff, andit's like, let's Ust Git, all that he gets introduced to everybody andthat'so co, Dat with all the the DNCAN prasically that maybe superman did nothave a Bam man. Organ story well, actually theyhit open with the death ofhis parents, him falling into a cave. Oh they did it really quickly. Yeahthey H Y, pretty much an more or less as soon you knew about anone SOS getout of tanything else on the DC. Now as herrible OB is bad. Shes, Aman,wonderwh, Wa, we're good docament haven't seen, but her was fun well andwe'll see like if Justice League was...

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We ever like make a mistake inlike like now, you have to sit downwhat there to have a whole Lin Oorallya, a o,so awkward like that movie has so many awkward parts where you're just kindoflike yeah. So that's kind of I mean leg upAman if you touched on a few times so good, but I think one of the thingsthat is so great about the character is, you can go all the way from Legobat man,nineteen sixty six can't be kindof fun and give Hem the same origin story orand then go all the way over to the dark na whereecs, tough gretty kind ofbrowded vigilanty and all of it still works just because the basic art typeof the character is it's very simple and you can kind of adapt to anything.There's kind of a badman out there for everybody, yeah, and I think weetouched on most of the main so and that Thatani a on Ha Musan es pra, all right,so that's bust of the movies justicey can just ast Li limited or Antai.Obviously they didn't focus on that. What about video games? Yo Entrust thisand justice too yeah and justice. The armse, if you guys haven't, playedthose games or are those comics? It's a great version of Batman. It's a goodversion of Superman and they made that movie. There would actually be a goodreason for bad minutes, an fight each other yeah, although I just lovedtowere like okay well Ti sit dow like okay. Well, how can we have badman ansupermint, fihe and h like fish fiht and an punch everyone's or Harleyquinon,and an Trundy Tis fight and fer not being smash on the ball? All right,well, Suverman develop these pills that make everyone as strong as he is 'cause.That's not a bad idea and then the resistant stole Themaholeo Rowho couldAvr was Evera Uggustedtat Y oat. That's the reason behind why thewhy they cango. Tototon tisfights is becase. Aliin, Yeh, lettice, therthey, Mak supermomakes these pills that make everyone who takes them as strong as he is so ecan make an army of himself. He doesn't explain why greenarrow still uses Bo anArrow while he's on those andhand white still affected hit Fi effectir, thebatterings stook, the pills sto. What happens if supermantakestos we don'tknow. I I also I also like uh hous sympathetic, a mharwquen ininjustice,and that she like Hes, tweaking Green Arrow about all his all s, name forthing. Wel It I airoky Hay Ol Wieri, like hat better. She shouldhave theybasically kind of make her into like a new robil yeah. It's really cool story,yeah, it's I'spe, it isn't M. I have't I'm only familiar with the the plot ofthe Firston, just second one Bernacx, the bag guy. I actually have not playedthrough it. Second, so so the second one, yes BERINIAC is the ultimane badguy. But it's the same deal. It's like it'sliving in like this world. Where Superman is it mainly followd falls Cara like agemper girl. She comes to Earth and, and she neets a wonderwoman and Baadon.She postpail her and they they are basically just like hey like like stayin in the dark until until the time is right, and so they are still likemaking strikes and stuff and batmen still trying to harvest everybody up.There's a few of them like from the first for the person justice that hkind of like renounce their allegiance to a supermanside and are kind ofjustlike essentially like on homearest, like they can't use their powersanymore like like Bary, is one of them. Ows, one of them has been Exi like, andso it's about how what those characters do coming back is about what what theyou, the bad guys essentially do as far as like Gerillagrag is, you know,running his brotherhood or whatever theres a bunch of people, an an gotlike a mole within them. You don't know who it is until theer sand. At the end,it's like theuraining is coming back, so s they're, trying to figure out whatthey do. He's got like like th, Blue Beatle and starfire are or likeprotecting the superman the whole time so they'rethey're, trying to figure out to be let this guy go because Braini etacking EOto do they're both kind o young e. it's it's a suber cool story like the wholein like its about Cara, obviously being...

...really close with Superman, but thenalso realizing. It's not crazy. No and IT KINDOF failing and there bigfighting like. I- and you know that led the injustice comics also crossd overwith Heman, if Yourokay, what Superman's weaknesses matche. So theygo to an alternate reality and Find Somebody Magic to Com peat him up andhe saidsi. U, I have not se that Oh, my Gosh thereis a heman cover of a forenoblonde song to what's going on, I'm showing to see Wat. After all. Right,I'm were closing. U Closing Ouwit! That son happening BAA. Injustice is great. IGOTTI watch all those cinematics, asso. I thought it was great Gameis, agome, solifiting game, t the sin guyswho did mortal combat. So if you played a mortal no, if you play more Comi,GAMS is morcomat Ni, IIT's, Isthe Otedl. The clash system is stupid. It's likehere t a random number and then something will happen. Questionmarkthat's in the first and just yeah avtathat's, basically like wasting yourenergy like you can either a lip down two or three an I ca be waste an thatmeans you have a better chance, yeah, essentially dislike setding, it's notgreat! Also. They they made the the Super Cutsis onscippable, which was bad'cause. They there, like onthey're cool and especially in injustice too. Ohthey're cool, Ewhen you're trying to do a fight and it takes off like a how faryou can see it three more times in the SNT plaeyeah. Well, they um AENARCOM, really great video gameseries. Aing back Ho le me. Let me say: Go Back Whyn do n things on a JusticeRo. I understood right why he wi sumakills jokers so spoilers spoilersfor Enia right at the beginning of the F Itthem, and it's also really old, nowduperma, so joker gases, scarecrow gases superman something something likethat as Lon can basically makes hi grent that he's iting Tuesday, but it'ssectually Lois Lane soee kills Lois Lane who was pregnant and then tied anew two lowes Li's hearte when Leslie dies, the Troplo gets Ne Anser, theSuperman kills jover and you're like yeah and then to Brindsliy, andtherefore I am now the god King of Earth Kneel before me humans, okay, Iunderstand why he would be broken by that. U, I don't understand thereaction of I get. He blames Backman too. That makes so enerything makessense until he's like an the way. I fill. U Timon. Everything Makecensitiis like and therefore wo nothat I mean Sumans Ting and especially in like yousee this morning, justice too he's he's like he's trying to run. Do you see inthe beginning of yeah, so the beginning of the injustice too shows you how thatman like traps, like basically captures superman, mhm and he's just like awkingpeople in the prison like like he's just killing killing like all theprison mates like like that ar thers like horrible people y. Ah, like these people like like, we don'twant them to make that decision. We want to kill them before they make theDI and understand. If peopl would do that, Itwud be like well, I'm justGOINGTA start killing the villains, but not I'm going to take over the wholeworld, but he's holding a Feros Li an taking over the world and he's likejust this. Lord, it's it's like Red Sun, where I read basically just saying theworld needs to be better h. If you're not going to do that, we're going Takill you, and so he he's got good motives. But you can't you can't dothis and I get that I feel like he jumps. He goes from ade so fast and Ifeel like he starts til joker and it should there should have been IMEAN. Ireals for the video game purposes. They can't I tolk they shoul een, aEsplation that Make Im Soor a little bit and he 's like o. How well look ateven within I thought I should take oet the wholing dets and I think that'swhat th. They basically do. Five years of those COMT H, ghess kind of where,where it goes an he, he takes over pretty quickly yeah, but also thatthat's the whole. But that's that's the thing that Batman hinges on constantlyand like that's the proof of it. Where he's L Ke as soon as you kill somebody,then your whole entire philosophy changes yeah and that's why he 's L,even if it's the worst person ever the second you do it. You become likeSupermane, where you say well now we're okay with killing people. Well, nowit'sus supply this to everybody. I'm fine! I'm not going to hurt you! I'm agood guy, I'm here, to help you but like if you're screwing up like we'regoing to kill you and I do get, I do get the concept of like the first shillis the hardest and then it becomes ior after that. But I you know, I don'tagree with the idea that, oh, if you kill someone that you instantly becomelike, I have to kill a you: Don't Pa Wel Tey, all this bloodl, it's alsodifferent than I mi Pas a wife and o s also Decidieng to Sharo. I I I tomurder him. By his own hand, you know it wasn't his fault in his entire cityI mean Aa lay CRMII. It creates likethe most a crazy emotional moment. OBE Likethis, would snap a supiny. Does it wall on fear gas aets see just just from youknow what think about supermas personality, I think Superman. This isme, be SPEC I en pool on Mster, Manhattan, Documenhattan and just IDlike yeah your on to depression, ifyou. Justwhen you see that I can see that you want to see that story, King, an OCOMTthat excellent Justice Inga, has the crazy reaalistic cart right. It's yeah,it's done by Otross, thatnd andjustice, there's also a geat series by anythingat alaxarostais is super realistic. He always does it off of...

...actual photos like people he knows andstuff, but the art is amazing, but that's basically what happened?Something terrible happens and Superman just retires and thit's like the storyof him coming back, yea, there's a lot of really great game, but that wr, so so that I can getaround. I think I have issues with it, but I ou know. I understand why thathappens. What I don't understand is why wonderwoman is on super inside, like ahundred percent 'cause, everyone else is kind of like well. I think he'sright, I'm not a hundred RSONT abor Lazin with Hem Moa. Just like hell,yeah, wonder Wol. I sights Ben an no here's. Why rbotwell it's because l and eveninjustice too, like like H, you get to see this because scarecrow does the fergas on her and you realize that her greatest fear was that she corruptsutsupermat and she's like sand. She has that deep in her heart, like thatshe's like daing like it, was me because, because she has always kind ofbeen like do I even want to protect this place. Earth is Kindo, crazy, aand so when Suverman says, Hey. I've got this new idea a and it does kindoftug on her on on the fear that she has like Li e man's, not redeemable, and soshe's like like. Let's go with that and then she's really caught into the ideathat, like all right, this is working like like we are. This is this was theright way to go because because, like that proved it like Clark killed hiswife, he killed all these people with Han nuke like this is proving it we'regoing to make a better place. EAN He bought than JOK right, but at's hatlike like the whole thing, is that those two ca well specifically her. Ithink that made sense. I D like it is tru. It seems, like her character, hadturned into like more of Ado, like Ui Spoil things a Andjustasuia I juststopped talking about whatever yeah go ahead. Sha Kills Harly Quin an justicetoo, like just staps O, like ether, sord and so like, like l e thosecharacter, defects where I'm like all rigt, like she's seeming a littlemenacing. I understand her taking clarkside and being like okay. This isthe way I've always wanted to do things anyways, but like yeah, but just M. Iforgot what was supposed o yeah. No, I think I think she was just thirsty. She won ack. She wanted that SippeBootin er, so two other really great Badman Games. Seri. You got a fat man,Arcin Cerri. Now in the CAS, any O Pat, I played a lot of the SEGAGNPA, aseriosegamthere's, some there's, some there's SOE bad duty, e Yeah, Arcum, really great story. Good FightSystem E, definitely killing people constantly all throughout it, go cotother day specially in the thirdone, where you e, just tazering them by running them over with a BA andthere,and it's not like they're, just like Oh flabic, they're, F they're, like teenrockets, Pung Pa, like they are so dead, you're, shooting them with a gun thatou use to pierce walls, but it has a rubber bullet. They're o also Jus, likethe exident that you have to beat them for them to get knocked UN conscious. IA do the like, Moldis base punches and then it's like wom kick their face intoa brick wall and then they're like they finit's like no, you kill them the bigguys, you've, taste them like our times too, also that that bad explosive that candbreak through brickwalls yeah. I know they snap some expoion, but I alwas olyuses I iniibut Yeah. I love the and the combat started with archanasasm rg andthat combat system was revolutionary, an co Tok over a lot of for a long time.All all the generic sanbox games, wereoving that, like the the fight,might fight counter shadow of mortor dewares it that he madmax Tam a Taiscreed, has gotten that way. CREEN, although seene had that from from two,but it wasn't nearly as new on the new Bieman, a Ta Spidermans done that. ButYeah Combat System was really an innovative, really great storyereallygood voice cast an and they get a really good job, making thingsdefinitive than like er and they're all going to come back in the next m yeah.It's a great Badman Joker Story: Oh Yeah Yeah, that's that's city, Arcib cityislanes like primary, like that stories, an alists and that are just reallydon't see him comin o. So if I were to rank them, I would go almost in order. I go Arcemo Scins, thebest, an Arcon City, even though I think Arcon city has. They really didit. They can prove a lot on these combat systems from Arcmanstanarcemindswhireally tightly designe yeah and our cobsidy is little as usy andthe consous of what is a riddle, ter and then Arton night, which I thoughtwas good and Arci borgages was kind of it was okay. I would go basically thesame way except I flipped the first to I like city eer. I think just storywise, because I didn't like the end of Arcumasylum, where ifiht O, that was atrash. That was a trash, but so I actually I plained them. I you knowChristmas. I was like you know. I have plain a long time. The ARCINCANEPTI doall of them, and I had eronit. I played through all the inchronlogic works, anorigins and asylum AAn asylum is just...

...so tightly designed, I think, just froma video game stangpoint, I think that's the most solid ones, the wrestlin kindof sprawl, especially 'cause. You get more into the open world. It juststarts to sprawl a little too a yeah, and the archinasylum has some reallyreally good moments. It hasn't really low the the lowest os, probably killerCROCK ND tasis, like dicto Batterankif, like e Bane fights pretty rough too,and then that it translates into the joker fight at the end, yeah yeah, h hwhat was for city? What was the main boss at the end, Yeh Youni fighting Clafe Aclaece, butyou also have joker and you go strain ye yea, the primary, an the primary Taewitl, the final, the final bossbite Isclae O, but there are some reallygood ones. Cui've playe that norgins, the only two ie play did some good D, OC for those two go, there's a really good. MSR, freeze, fight, yeah, O YeahM Reesihin city was really Reallyo h because every time Y, U you have totake him down like kitchicuff. I remember Han every time I won't do iter you. Can he les, like Wellc you're, not going to do that again. So if youlike, pop out of the vent to Te, take down icous old, evens yeah it that wasthat was, I think, probably the best Bossi. The had in the entire series ofYe really really well designed Sper Fun, supertense anehe're, like Oh wh. How amI going to Tink thow now? He he blocked all that off I' wait. WTHE, take downsto a hale, so it really made you use all o Theaa Jaz ithoght was that wasexcellent. No the ritler stuff just got like I ne. I stopped doing them like Irea side quest that I'm like in in the city. You didn't have to do themselves.Li e yeah, but if you don't do them, you don't get the realant arcum night.You know riddles become Mario or levels and Roma vites. That was so weird yeah,an the batmobile. All of them are designed. So the Bamabo can control thecourse Yeah Right Tho were fun, but it was like what isthe rigular doing these out of his elemen yeahbut, the character designswere all really great. Oh yeah scarecrow was awesome in the last Ga.It was really good and really good used the scarecrow scenes and archimasylumwe're amazing. Where you go like he's larger than life, 'cause you're,redected, B, O fer gas. All really good stuffno Noj an think. I think the last there's one other gameseries. I'M N recommend I don't know if either Reguya play it, but it's bat manthat telltale othe, tofail ones, honeserpthey're really good. It'sbasically a use. Your own adventure movie yeah. I was going to say it's notreally like a game. It's more. Just like a comic hractive, stor yets, aninteractive story like they do some really cool stuff. The first one Ienjoyed a lot. There's a lot of subversion. You get to see like somelike two face: catwomen are in there and depending on the choice you make,they can go different ways like ateltal, like altelto games. Thereis based like a basic narrative that you end up at no matter what the secondgame is really cool. Second, eplisode yeah, the second episode 'cause. That'swhen you really, you meet a Codo version of the joker in the first game,and the second game is basically the joker's origin story as influenced byyou as Badman and Orberswin, and depending on the choices you make, thatcan go to really different ways and it ends up really cool either way. I don'twant to spoil it too much, but it's a really solid story. It was somethingthat weren't afraid to do something a little bit different in both games,solid pay off I'd, say playing through at least once is definitelyyeah it'smore like watching an interactive movie, but they're a lot of fun that prettymuch pro covers it. A lot about mealot of things the MI'm gonna went throughrun down through a few recommendations, really quick. I thought about. If youwant to know more about the history of that man, I've watched three reallycool documentaries on one's call, it's Twentwo thousand and five. It's calledlegends of the dark night, a history of Badman. It's basically interviews withKevin Smith, Stanley, Frank Miller, Pauldenian brused, him a did theanimated Serie. What does Stanleeha? He is in comic books, and they got him tocome by and talk about that. There you go ye H. actually at one point didwrite his own version of Batman and the rest of the justicepretty interesting,but basically, O was just a famous face that they brought in the whole thingsnarrated by Mark Camell, but also get in, like some otherwriters, tnoeojef Johns. It's really good kind of comprehensive history ofthe character up until ten thousand five yeah and then there's another documentary, Batmen andBilit's available on Hoo. I think it's actually hoo original goes back andkind of when Bob Cane created batmanw. I touched on this earlier. He kind oftook Sol credit for it, but till finger as another guy who works really solidlyon a came with a lot of concepts and kind of tells like the secret origin ofBatman, really interesting, watch and then one that actually oner brothersjust put it up for free on you tub. It's called Batmany animated series,the heart of Badman and it's basically...

...everybody that was involved in theseries about an hour and half long. Talking about how the show cametogether and it's Jus, it's a really interesting watch. If you're interestedin history, O Badman I'd recommend all three of those documentaries. If you'rewanting to just watch like a really solid Baan movie, your origin story IVtalked about a mask of e fantasm and in one ofour last episodes I'm not goingto go into that too much here, but I feel, like that's kindof everything,bad man just o. like an hour and a half, we talked about Bamanbrdan Boll, someof the other stuff theyre los most of the ones. On Um, most of the animated movies t a have. IE N on DC Arnor. All A now. There are some weird ones that man Tatmsmro youWach Min in Javavanan Injia have not watched that one. Yet it's I 's! Soabsurdly anima, don't I really don't want to give it any? I Lo you gotexperience. I love that man I love Anna May it's been on my list for a while'youwill enjoy it it's beyond. Bizare at the Hendin can be like okay. What?What was that Ono? No, no! No! It starts off pretty normal, like they getthrown back in time and they're Inpoul, Japan, N, so therether. You know thevillains all establish their own regions and takeover, but then t thesecond half again, I'm not Goin to spoil it. The second half goes off thePOSEN Tan of R different goes from like Ninja Anima to a very different H,genree Anima Ho'll know exactly what an Johnri as soon as it happen again, Idon't want to spoil it. It's not it's not it's so bizile if you them in all theDC. Animated movies are really sals. Some of my favorites are your one otherdark night returns. So if you wan to watch, you want to do like an animated,bad man movie night watch three, I would saydark you're one and watch under the Red Hood and then dark night returns.That's kind of like a cool, an make ship trille Yo there. If you're, reallyinterested in Batman, animation, Babin the Brav, an the bullds, really Sawat,F, Really Doin for kids. It's a Lorat introduction to the DC Universe, UmThatens, realy awesome in young justice. It was not a man's character, but he'sa really awesome supporting character and there's a lot of robin n yeah andthen one that gets overlooked. A lot is called the Batman. Oh the got a caneontalk about Buot and he came out after bat many animitted series. It was soneby the same guys who did Juckie Chan, yeah, so you'll, recogniz yourself. Ifyou ever watch checkjin venture, that's the one where o Werei'm blanking AnanSixty six Animas Adam West comes back. I believe he voices the Maror and thatone yeah yeah he's in there. It's really sa the first season is a littleslow yeah, but it's a really interesting progression. Basically, youstart out and the theme song, for it is amazing. It's this really creepy badman Thame, but they do Nand. It starts off. Badman is on his own, just withAlfred, there's, actually detectives trying to take him down, and it goesthrough throughout the course of five seasons. It goes from Batman being aloner on one side of the Law to Introducing Commission of Gordon. Thenhe get sidecacks in the last season. An inust like os the whole DC Universe,justice. It's a really good, like condensed like C Universe, yeah fromBadmasor, so yeah it doesn't really it's really solid and especially thelater season e see- and I'm Gongo talk a little bitmore about this. On my blog but you're looking to get intoBadman. There's three things I would say to check out for recommended.Reading jokers boner obvious. Don't go wo that obviously H, but if you're reallylooking to get into the character, I'd say check out that man you're one byfrank, Miller, desenative wordan story for Badman. You can follow that up witha comical Batman, O Long Halloween, its basically the sequel to that a lot ofthe same, supporting cast moves on into it, but you introduce all of thatman'srope th allery, really organically, and then they do a sequel to thatcalled dark victory. Wich Introduces Robin and by the time you've readthrough those three. You basically have a really solid grasp on all the mainsupporting cas of that man. I it is datman number six that is the issow you.You want to go. Look at numer, sixty sixs ND quote this emphasis on bonershas given me an idea for a new invention in crime. Catin city willrule that Tay Anfengon theword pone and they h' always onething to do. We'vegot to get the joker before e gets us US continue our study of the greatboters of all time. This is the actual Tialor someone didn't Headi. Thisinplease Yo'll read this. If you want to know what Thatmean is about tr sixsthing, U Yeahyeah am, I think, is e', like yousaid before, he covers the entire Spectrao Supergiros goofy, campy,serious gritty and everything in between, and so I think there there's abad ban on there for everyone and it's in Bama. Sixty six agree gre. Well,...

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